Why did you decide to hand in your natty card?
- 10-10-2013, 07:56 PM
Meh I've never even thought of myself as natty given I have been on one stim or another for ADHD since I was 8 years old. Kind of changed my views of natty vs not from a very young age...
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- 10-10-2013, 07:57 PM
I have def impressed myself thus far. I'm only 29 and been lifting since I was 25. Went from 168lbs @ 15% to 220lbs down to 190 @ 8% now I'm 202 @ 10%. I think people can accomplish amazing things with their body if the dedication is there.
I have too many hobbies haha. I want to be good at many thing but guitar comes first. Been playing for 18 years. Guitar is a perfect example of something extremely hard for people but something that certain people with drive can become incredible at in a lifetime.
- 10-10-2013, 10:24 PM
Well 6, observe these photos below. I'm sure that people told the kid on the left the same thing they told you. You don't have the structure, you'll always be skinny, why do you even lift, whatever. Then he grew into the guy on the right. I say fukk a genetic ceiling. The only ceiling is the limit of how many years you put into this game and what you put in day in and day out for those years.Training log:
10-10-2013, 10:25 PM
10-11-2013, 02:46 AM
Do it at a safe age probably around 28 to 30 . I do it because I frsuse to look average I wanna crack the ****ing side walk
10-11-2013, 08:46 AM
10-11-2013, 09:47 AM
10-11-2013, 10:33 AM
So then we are all in agreement that anyone can drastically increase the size of their wrists and ankles after adulthood? Bones and tendons?
10-11-2013, 10:35 AM
10-11-2013, 11:05 AM
10-11-2013, 11:20 AM
Well, picture is worth 1,000 words. This conversation has definitely opened my eyes a bit in the "genetics" argument.
I will say I have put on 50lbs in 3+ years (100lbs+ added to bench and 150lbs+ added to squats) while gaining absolutely zero in ankle or wrist size. And I mean zero, maybe .1"! I can still touch my thumb and finger around my ankle just as easy as day 1. that dude gained 160 lbs and doubled his wrists, though.
10-11-2013, 11:28 AM
10-11-2013, 11:30 AM
Now, people like your professional bodybuilders are always going to have small joints compared to their musculature, but you know those guys structure has grown and gotten stronger as well.
10-11-2013, 11:49 AM
I still feel like in that pic, Billy is a 1 in 10,000 kind of transformation that still (in my opinion) has to do with genetics allowing him to get there.
10-11-2013, 11:51 AM
10-11-2013, 02:08 PM
10-11-2013, 02:10 PM
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10-11-2013, 03:22 PM
That pic comparison is called an aberration or an anomaly....that is NOT normal in 99.99% of people, sorry but it does happen, obviously.
10-11-2013, 03:29 PM
10-11-2013, 03:42 PM
10-11-2013, 05:03 PM
Not playing devil's advocate, I've had my share of genetics-based frustrations but I truly believe your limitations are where you perceive them to be. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm going to give it everything I have with the mindset that I COULD look like some of my role models. Shooting way too high and believing in yourself will produce impressive results, even if you come up short. Will I need gear to accomplish this at 35? Absolutely.
10-11-2013, 05:09 PM
I'm not gonna sit here and say lifting weights and eating will make your bones bigger (although density is another story).
BUT, all I keep hearing are excuses about why you're not where you want to be (in reference to 6 1/2). It's hard to accomplish something when you're absolutely convinced you can't do it.
10-11-2013, 05:14 PM
10-11-2013, 07:28 PM
10-12-2013, 11:09 AM
I'm actually a compulsively competitive person. I was saying it will always be harder for someone with stick genes to look like a human wrecking ball. No one is going to tell my what I can and can't achieve, though.
I'm very happy given my genetics. I've shut many friends up who didn't want me to get "my hopes" up. I went from 168lbs @ 15% to 204lbs @ 9% in 3.5 years. I think 204 @ 9% is respectable in that time considering I'm in a professional band, teach guitar classes, Bmx/mt bike, brew beer and work full time. I can only give lifting X amount of my time. I wish there was more hours in the day, trust me.
Will I ever look like Billy? F*ck no.
10-12-2013, 12:00 PM
10-12-2013, 12:28 PM
But we are both tall (you're 6'5" right? I can't see on my phone) and have thin wrists. Mine are probably thinner than yours. We are 5-6 inches taller than him so we'd need to match his gains and then 50lbs more or so to obtain proportional results and double our wrist size (which I'm still not convinced just anyone can do). Possible? Yes but I mean come on... that's probably 200 lbs of respectable mass I'd need. I gained 35-40 in 3 years but with gear... who knows, right? There is no yes or no... only try. So I guess this was just a long way of agreeing, realistically haha
10-18-2013, 04:22 PM
I may have gone on them eventually without the reason I'm about to give but who knows. I've always been athletic but just couldn't gain much size. I decided to train hard and eat big all by the book, and I got some great gains. Just when I reached the body I had ALWAYS wanted and feeling super self-confident and happy I came down with a mysterious health syndrome that doctors to this day still haven't figured out, I basically lost everything AND SOME MORE. Now I am way better than I was but just not the person I was originally and there is no way I could undergo what I did before so my reason for going on is my ONLY WAY of getting that body back again.
I've decided its worth the risk.
Sucks though because I reached my goals natty once. I cant wait to see god.
10-18-2013, 04:27 PM
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