Havoc Cycle

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    Starting a cycle of havoc in December after two more months of bulking. First cycle ever and I'm a little nervous with the dangers and sides. Any advice will help. I've purchased: Havoc by RPN 2 bottles CEL Cycle Assist 2 bottles PES Erase High Affinity Inhibitor 2 bottles Post Cycle 3x PCT 1 bottle DIM-plus 1 bottle I'd like to start with 30 mg a day and eventually increase to 50 towards the end of the cycle. Advice on the best way to cycle and when to take what at what times.

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    Also have DIM to take with PC
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    seems fine to me

    epi usualy 40-60mgs
    use cycle assist as directed on the bottle during your cycle

    end with erase for your PCT... I'm not sure how to dose erase tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekPoop View Post
    seems fine to me epi usualy 40-60mgs use cycle assist as directed on the bottle during your cycle end with erase for your PCT... I'm not sure how to dose erase tho
    Have you taken epi before? What sides did you experience? Good gains?
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    Many people (including myself) would recommend a SERM if running it 5 weeks or longer, especially @ 50-60 mg.
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    [QUOTE="6andaHalf;4185701"]Many people (including myself) would recommend a SERM if running it 5 weeks or longer, especially @ 50-60 mg.[/QUOTE

    I don't have access to a SERM
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    [QUOTE=Anabolic330;4185809]
    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    Many people (including myself) would recommend a SERM if running it 5 weeks or longer, especially @ 50-60 mg.[/QUOTE

    I don't have access to a SERM
    You should not run this cycle, or you need to look harder. why do you think you don't have access to a SERM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    Many people (including myself) would recommend a SERM if running it 5 weeks or longer, especially @ 50-60 mg.
    Well I've seen blood work on day 5 of some cycles showing they were completely suppressed so I'd lower that two week 2 or 3 max for epistane..

    People need a SERM for any active steroid and most pro hormones lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6andaHalf View Post
    Many people (including myself) would recommend a SERM if running it 5 weeks or longer, especially @ 50-60 mg.
    this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic330 View Post

    You should not run this cycle, or you need to look harder. why do you think you don't have access to a SERM?
    and this
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    I Agree with others. No serm no cycle.

    Don't have access? What? I hear that Google thing is awesome......

    Chances are that if you don't use a serm you will lose any gains you made on cycle. Making the cycle pointless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabolic330 View Post
    Have you taken epi before? What sides did you experience? Good gains?
    ya like twice a few years ago

    was pretty good if I remember correctly
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