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    Test base alternative


    I used to use dermacrine ages ago as i cant do injects ...

    I always run dermacrine with a compound to help sides ...

    Transaderm was the new big thing but cant seem to find any in the uk now ...

    So just wondering if anyone else uses anything else as a base or if any companies have anything in the pipeline for a test base alternative ..

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    Are you looking for something legal? Or do you have access to aas?
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    Trestolone Acetate is legal and feels a lot like test and I've run both. Trest probably equals bigger muscle gains though
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    4-AD RDe, Trestolone Ace, in the UK I think the original 4ad is legal if that is the case well that is a great one.
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    No i dont have access to real gear i meant a legal alternative which is why i mentioned transaderm and dermacrine as a test base replacement to run with a compound like epi or sd.

    Will look into 4ad thanks for suggestions i thought their might have been something new around by now have been out the game for awhile
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    Their is something new. Like already stated trestolone or look up trestobol.
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    5alpha test
    Stano-not exactly a base but does wonders
    Bulk up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    No i dont have access to real gear i meant a legal alternative which is why i mentioned transaderm and dermacrine as a test base replacement to run with a compound like epi or sd.

    Will look into 4ad thanks for suggestions i thought their might have been something new around by now have been out the game for awhile
    everyone here as access to real gear, its for sale all over the internet. just sayn
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    everyone here as access to real gear, its for sale all over the internet. just sayn
    You just don't know purity of the stuff through a website because they can publish what they want
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post

    You just don't know purity of the stuff through a website because they can publish what they want
    Yeah, idk if I would ever buy any from the internet. Too risky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    You just don't know purity of the stuff through a website because they can publish what they want
    you have to do some research and look for a source getting good reviews and lab results, then you have to do your own bloodwork too to ensure its legit

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    Yeah, idk if I would ever buy any from the internet. Too risky.
    I have gotten some really good gear from different sources, they aren't hard to find. I think its just as risky if not more to buy from a guy at the gym, the don't post labs or have people post reviews. just my opinion
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    If a person truly desires to juice, and keeps eyes and ears open, you'd be amazed what falls in your lap. Happens time and time again
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    you have to do some research and look for a source getting good reviews and lab results, then you have to do your own bloodwork too to ensure its legit

    I have gotten some really good gear from different sources, they aren't hard to find. I think its just as risky if not more to buy from a guy at the gym, the don't post labs or have people post reviews. just my opinion
    That's why when you actually talk to the guy every week, know his friends and his high ups who test it, you Ave some peace of mind. I don't know if I could ever be totally be comfortable with online or gym guy. Online tends to go up and down. You can't just test it once and tryst it forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post

    That's why when you actually talk to the guy every week, know his friends and his high ups who test it, you Ave some peace of mind. I don't know if I could ever be totally be comfortable with online or gym guy. Online tends to go up and down. You can't just test it once and tryst it forever.
    There is always a risk with buying gear. If you do proper research you can find some great sources. I always thought it was so risky to purchase online but if your careful it really shouldn't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    If a person truly desires to juice, and keeps eyes and ears open, you'd be amazed what falls in your lap. Happens time and time again
    Lol why doesn't it ever happen to me!
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    back before I started lifting I knew a lot of guys that were selling. Now that I'm looking for gear they cant be found. geeez
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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    back before I started lifting I knew a lot of guys that were selling. Now that I'm looking for gear they cant be found. geeez
    It happens all the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    Trestolone Acetate is legal and feels a lot like test and I've run both. Trest probably equals bigger muscle gains though
    How does this compare to stano?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    How does this compare to stano?
    Its much more of a bulking agent but has an estrogen side to it you need to account for depending on dose used. I'd love to see a log of the powder ran with Tren ace..say 25-40mg each
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    How does this compare to stano?
    Trest will blow your mind if you have run stano. Libido like crazy. Mass gain and vascularity. Definitely aromatizes. I'd say have letro in case. Aromasin at 12.5 ED couldn't control it quite. But I ran it up to 80-90 ED(the Trest that is) and to mix it with Tren would be miserable. It gave me night sweats and my body temperature all day was crazy. If I moved out sweated. But I love the compound and the appetite it gives is crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by harbonah View Post
    Its much more of a bulking agent but has an estrogen side to it you need to account for depending on dose used. I'd love to see a log of the powder ran with Tren ace..say 25-40mg each
    Letro needs to be ran than during cycle to combat estrogen. Might give it a go with some Sd or Hdrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    Trest will blow your mind if you have run stano. Libido like crazy. Mass gain and vascularity. Definitely aromatizes. I'd say have letro in case. Aromasin at 12.5 ED couldn't control it quite. But I ran it up to 80-90 ED(the Trest that is) and to mix it with Tren would be miserable. It gave me night sweats and my body temperature all day was crazy. If I moved out sweated. But I love the compound and the appetite it gives is crazy
    I loved Stano. Libido was kept and raised and keeps you dry. Damn u said blow it away? Hmmm. I don't like to take anything that aromatizes never took letro neither. Mixed with sd ,Hdrol or Epi should be nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post

    I loved Stano. Libido was kept and raised and keeps you dry. Damn u said blow it away? Hmmm. I don't like to take anything that aromatizes never took letro neither. Mixed with sd ,Hdrol or Epi should be nice.
    In a month my bodyweight went from 188-203. Good vascularity too. I held most if it in PCT until the last week or so my training sucked and I went down 3 lbs for a total drop of 5 or so.. My metabolism is nuts and so if my training slacks at the same time as I fail to eat enough I'll drop weight fast
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    Trest is so great. The best part is the way it makes you fell. It's like finding a $20 bill in that jacket you just put on for the first time this season. You just fell great all the time on it. The great thing is you can fell it after about 45 minutes. I had no problems with estro and only ran 2 erase ed but everyone react different. IMO the only thing that sucks is the price. Why don't any one else make this for some competition and bring the prices down a little?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
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    Some good options listed here used a few myself as a base. Shoot me a Pm about the Bulk-Up if you have any questions or needed a coupon code
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    Quote Originally Posted by maybe0123 View Post
    Stano at a gram helps me survive a cycle
    I ran up to 1400mgs
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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post

    Some good options listed here used a few myself as a base. Shoot me a Pm about the Bulk-Up if you have any questions or needed a coupon code
    Bulk up is apart my upcoming hdrol cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Bulk up is apart my upcoming hdrol cycle
    Are you logging if so lmk?
    How long are you running it for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NADDANME View Post
    Are you logging if so lmk?
    How long are you running it for?
    Yep logging....6 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Yep logging....6 weeks
    Count me in sound like a good combo really shouldn't have any major sides unless you go crazy high on the Hdrol
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Bulk up is apart my upcoming hdrol cycle
    Nice! The ingredients in bulk-up are definitely good as a test base.

    Only other option I'd consider would be dermacrine but it usually needs to be a bit higher dose. Bulk-up has prohormones that convert to DHT pretty readily so libido and lethargy shouldn't be a problem.

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