Also, can anyone help me out with the timing of the Epi and Taurine? I am currently thinking 20mg of Epi upon waking with breakfast and then doing the other 10mg a few hours before i workout with my pre workout meal. Then when I bump it up to 40mg for the remainder of the cycle should I do 20 upon waking, 10 with lunch, and 10 with dinner post workout or do all the remaining 20 about two hours before working out? Same thing with Taurine. How much do I need to have per day to combat the back pumps? I believe I have read about 6g? 3g upon waking and 3g before working out or 2 upon waking, 2 pre workout, and 2 post workout?