Test E + Parabolan Cycle - Any Ideas !!
- 09-03-2013, 03:14 AM
Test E + Parabolan Cycle - Any Ideas !!
I really appreciate everyone trying to give or even seek advice from this community. it is really great to be able to find help when you need it and yet to give help when you can.
I am planning a new bulking cycle and would like your input on everything. This should be my 3rd cycle so far. The last one ended like 9 months ago.
I am 36 y , 170 cm (5.5"), 86 kg (189 lb), 23% BF
here is my layout
- Test E – 500 mg 2x Week - Weeks 1 - 14
- Parabolan – 153 mg 2x Week – Weeks 1 - 10
- Dianabol – 40 mg / Day – Weeks 1 - 4 & Weeks 15-16
- HCG – 250 iu 2x Week – Weeks 4 -14
- PCT Starts week 17 (Clomid 50/50/50/50) & Nolva (20/20/20/20)
should I add / remove any gear?
should I up the Nolva to 40/40 ?
I have some letro, but not enough for the whole cycle. Should I add it from the beginning?
P.S. I had gyno before and had it surgically removed.
Thoughts are very much appreciated
- 09-03-2013, 11:37 PM
- 09-04-2013, 07:37 AM
09-05-2013, 06:20 AM
09-07-2013, 05:35 AM
i used letro with a pervious Test E cycle with 1/4 of a pill (2.5mg pill) EOD. Is that enough? I have read somewhere that more than that would kill libido.
i also don't think pramipexole pills come in 0.5 mg / tablet. how do you manage dosing?
09-07-2013, 05:59 AM
Re the letro if it worked for you in the past I'd stick with it. Just remember when you come off taper your dose down to prevent estrogen rebound as letro isn't a suicidal AI.
09-07-2013, 06:19 AM
09-07-2013, 07:00 AM
09-26-2013, 07:47 AM
first let me congratulate you on the new pic. you look very much in shape man. good work.
i just wanted to tell you that i haven't started my cycle yet. still getting gear and preparing PCT stuff. yet i came accross a tip that says that Prami can make you fall asleep all of a sudden, even during driving. Is this true? did u face this problem?
Do I need to through some Proviron in there??
what can I use to increase libido and enhance erection?
sorry for bothering you that much and thanks for all your help.
09-26-2013, 05:46 PM
10-02-2013, 05:06 PM
10-02-2013, 05:09 PM
10-02-2013, 10:58 PM
I would add caber to this cycle as well as arimidex. Dbol will prolly give you some problems. Winstrol works good with tren to keep side down too... food for thought.
ditch nolva in pct, clomi is fine 52/25/25/25
other than that, seems fine.
Serious Nutrition Solutions
10-08-2013, 07:54 AM
Hay guys I still have a couple of questions
What if I start HCG from week 1 not 4?
Should I stop the Prami when I stop Parabolan at week 10?
What if i drop Dianabol altogether? some ppl say it would make you bloat and the Test E is enough. !!!
Should I continue with the Femara during PCT??
10-10-2013, 03:52 AM
Stop the pramipexole when you stop the parabolan, although frequent dosing of pramipexole shows that it increases HGH.
Provided you control estrogen dbol shouldn't bloat you up that much, there will always be a bit of bloat with compounds that aromatise.
I would discontinue femara in pct and switch to erase, it's not as potent and has a strong anti cortisol effect.
10-10-2013, 08:12 AM
1. I doubt it'll matter, prolly just use more hcg
2. wait a week
3. than you're missing out.
4. I wouldn't use letro at all, why not just arimidex during your cycle like I previously suggested
Serious Nutrition Solutions
10-10-2013, 12:19 PM
10-10-2013, 04:44 PM
10-11-2013, 08:26 AM
Luke. I was thinking of using a tapper routine after my cycle. I have Test P amps of 25 mg. i was thinking of using those twice a week after my cycle and into my PCT. what do u think? if not like that , How do u think it should be done?
10-11-2013, 08:52 AM
10-11-2013, 08:56 AM
11-06-2013, 03:49 PM
I have layed out the timings so that there are 56 hours between Test &Parapolan shots.
Letro (Femara) is taken at 0.62 mg EOD.
So far so good. But I notice a major decrease in libido. Any suggestions?
I'm also thinking of taking HCG at 250 iu 3 times a week instead of 2 times at 300 iu. What do you think?
11-06-2013, 04:02 PM
11-07-2013, 05:12 AM
11-07-2013, 05:17 AM
Libido enhancers? Not really, not while your on. I haven't really had that issue so I haven't looked into it sorry.
11-19-2013, 05:04 AM
I need some help please. Prami is killing me. I started with 0.5 mg E3D. Then, I dropped to 0.25 mg, all at bed time. but when I take it, I get a difficulty swallowing and I feel as if something is down my through chocking me. It makes me feel like vomiting. The horrible thing is that this feeling goes on for like 2 days. Pretty much close to the next dose. I also get a difficulty sleeping.
Any Ideas on how to combat this ??
I was also thinking of throwing 10 mg Clenbuterol before workout. I have a lot of fat around my midsection and I thought Clen might help the body release this fat, especially with the intensity of the exercise.
Thank you all in advance.
11-19-2013, 07:50 AM
11-23-2013, 08:30 PM
02-10-2014, 12:11 AM
i am almost near the end of week 14 and i wanted to layout my cycle to you with the changes that i have made.
Test E @ 250 mg/ml 3 X week - Weeks 1 -10
Test E @ 250 mg/ml 2 X week - Weeks 11-14
Parapolan @ 76.5 mg/ml 2 X week - Weeks 1 - 10
HCG : 300 iu 3 X week - Weeks 1 - 16
Prami : 0.25 mg 3 X week - Weeks 1 - 10 ( stops slightly after finishing Parapolan )
Letro : 0.62 mg (1/4 pill) 3 X week - Weeks 1 - 16
Clomid : 50 mg 3 X week - Weeks 1-16
Horny Goat Weed
Do I need to include Letro? or HCG?
- I did not gain much results from this cycle. not what i have expected. i have done other Test E cycles before at 500 mg / week and the results were grater . Actually i did not feel Parapolan doing me any good. Maybe it is the make. I'm not sure. My parapolan came from Alpha Pharma and my Test E came from an Egyptian pharmaceutical company.
- Prami was a little hard on me. sides were annoying and i had to drop the dose from 0.5 mg to 0.25 mg 3 X week.
- I found that including Clomid during the cycle EOD would help make PCT easier.
- I also used Opti-Men as a multivitamin during the cycle.
- I developed acne on the top shoulders.
I am now finishing Week 14 and then 2 weeks off then PCT. I still have a question, however. Can I EXTEND my cycle a few more weeks on TEST E alone and the Ancillaries? if yes, for how long?
I would also like to know what if one gets sick during a cycle? the flue or a cough that requires antibiotics and other medications. Should one stop the cycle, put it on hold till it's over, or continue as normal?
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