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    Epistane/Dermacrine log


    Hey AM I'm gonna start my first log here of my epistane and dermacrine cycle that I will be starting tomorrow. My goal is definitely to bulk, right now I'm eating roughly 4,000 calories every day. My macros breakdown will be 250g protein, 90g fat, 550g carbs to start my cycle, but by the end I may increase calories by adding in more carbs. I eat mostly whole grain pasta and brown rice for carbs, avocados, egg yolks, and nuts for fats, and a lot of ground beef(93/7) and tilapia for protein. I also will be using ON serious mass to help reach my caloric goal.

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    Height 5'8"
    Weight 180lbs @ ~12-13% bf

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    Epi 30/30/30/40/40/40
    Dermacrine 3 pumps throughout the cycle
    CEL cycle support

    PCT:
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    DAA 3/3/3/3/
    Erase 0/3/2/2/1

    Once pct is said and done i hope to have held onto at least 10 lbs, if not more. I'm gonna be kicking this off tomorrow morning, who's in for the ride?

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    Also, I was originally going to start sometime in September. However I already have everything necessary for this cycle so I figured I'd go ahead with it now before the semester gets too busy.
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    Interesting combo. I liked Derm, but never tried Epistane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saludable24 View Post
    Interesting combo. I liked Derm, but never tried Epistane.
    Yeah I have some stano that I thought about using instead of the dermacrine but I decided I'll just hold onto that a little longer. I've heard great things about dermacrine but this will be my first time using it.
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    In for this. Good luck, brah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ducoteycd View Post
    Yeah I have some stano that I thought about using instead of the dermacrine but I decided I'll just hold onto that a little longer. I've heard great things about dermacrine but this will be my first time using it.
    you could run both stano and derma.......havent used derma yet but interested in results as a base
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordNeckbeard View Post
    In for this. Good luck, brah.
    Thanks man it should be a good one!

    Took 30 mg epi spread out yesterday and nothing really of note yet aside from maybe a little extra sweating. Down here in east Texas I'm always sweating though lol
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    Haha. You'll be right.

    From what I've read, it does take a good couple of weeks for people to start feeling epi properly, and I think that's even at a 40 mg dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordNeckbeard View Post
    Haha. You'll be right.

    From what I've read, it does take a good couple of weeks for people to start feeling epi properly, and I think that's even at a 40 mg dose.
    Yeah I want to say for most people going into week 3 is when it starts to really make a difference. Before then though I've seen a lot of logs with people being up 5-10 lbs, probably from glycogen/water storage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    you could run both stano and derma.......havent used derma yet but interested in results as a base
    Sorry man I didn't see your post earlier!

    And yeah I did consider that actually. The only thing is if I wanted to do that I'd need another bottle of stano, and money is kind of tight at the moment. I work on campus at my university and paychecks are always like 2 weeks behind for whatever reason.
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    Just hit legs today and I'm definitely sweating a lot more than I normally do. Also I feel like aggression is up a bit but its probably just in my head haha.

    Anyway here's what my workout was:

    Squats 135x15, 225x10, 275x5, 315x6.. Was trying to save a little bit for that last set
    Weighted step ups 30s for 4 sets of 5 reps per leg
    Hack squat press 90x12, 180x8, 180x8
    Lunges with 100lb bar 4 sets of 7 each leg
    Leg curls 125x15, 140x12, 155x8, 155x6 then drop to 125x5
    Leg extensions 190x15, 205x12, 220x8, 220x8 then drop to 190x4

    I also did some abs at the end. Overall still not much difference aside from the sweating.
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    Took a rest day yesterday because the gym was closed for Labor Day. Today I hit back though and no increases in strength to speak of yet, but I got a great pump.

    Basically at this point there still isn't too much to note except that stupid stuff annoys me more often and I sweat easier haha
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    Give it a few days. It seems it changes from person to person how fast epi strikes. In my experience, by the first 8/9 days on Epi I can gain 6/7lb, then I loose one or two, and from there I keep THE GAINZ.

    Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FranARG View Post
    Give it a few days. It seems it changes from person to person how fast epi strikes. In my experience, by the first 8/9 days on Epi I can gain 6/7lb, then I loose one or two, and from there I keep THE GAINZ.

    Good luck!
    Yeah I can feel it after I take it it just hasn't translated to my lifts yet. I think I'm a few pounds up at the moment too but I'll check that in the morning. I'm pumped though it should be getting good here soon! And thanks bro
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