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    Nice job bro. That insomnia must be a real pain in the ass. Luckily I don't get that side on cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Nice job bro. That insomnia must be a real pain in the ass. Luckily I don't get that side on cycle.
    Yea I just can't sleep happened again last night ill get maybe 15 min and wake up get another 15 wake up again its a vicious cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post

    Yea I just can't sleep happened again last night ill get maybe 15 min and wake up get another 15 wake up again its a vicious cycle
    You think about trying some sleep aids? Maybe try some melatonin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking23 View Post

    You think about trying some sleep aids? Maybe try some melatonin.
    Melatonin has never worked for me I tried some REM PM by man sports that didn't work I tried something by ai sports and i t gave me wicked crazy dreams and not restful sleep. It seems like the only time I get restful sleep is on the weekends or if I'm drinking but since I am on cycle I'm not drinking at all I've tried sleepy time tea and all other natural sleep aids every cycle I get terrible insomnia
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    Have you ever tried G8 by FINAFLEX?

    Most sleep like a baby with only half a scoop
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    Have you ever tried G8 by FINAFLEX?

    Most sleep like a baby with only half a scoop
    Never tried it ill check it out. Thanks for the recomendation
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
    Have you ever tried G8 by FINAFLEX?

    Most sleep like a baby with only half a scoop
    ^^^^this

    Love G8. REM 8.0 is another great option
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    Up 10lbs already! Nice progress thus far. You gotta work on getting more sleep during cycle to help with the recover. I would definitely give G8 a go it works well. Personally, ZMAs + Passion flower + agmatine works wonders for me. But, you probably need to go with the stronger option which would be the G8. Good luck bro keep us posted.
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    Definately gonna order some of that g8 and hopefully that works. I broke my rule of not drinking last night and had about 7 beers with the wifes boss. I was feeling pretty good and passed out only to wake up an hour later. When you can't stay asleep when u have a good buzz goin there's a problem
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    Dude no drinking homie :-). Lol anyway, yes G8 ftw. Start with a half scoop. I actually do a 1/4 or 1/3 scoop and I'm golden. Relaxes me and I literally wake up in the same position I went to sleep in ready to go SFW at 4 am :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post

    That's a good idea yet I have noticed my nips are already getting sensitive so I'm keeping the dose at 12.5 and adding more fish oil and ordering cissus for my joints
    Man I would have got Formutech Nutritions Flexible. It has cissus and HA along with a slew of other joint sups. I use it at a 1/2 dose a day an it's great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post

    Never tried it ill check it out. Thanks for the recomendation
    If you want to try REM 8.0 let me know I will send you a couple samples. It is very good, strong enough to battle trensomnia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02sixxer View Post

    Man I would have got Formutech Nutritions Flexible. It has cissus and HA along with a slew of other joint sups. I use it at a 1/2 dose a day an it's great.
    Ill order this when I get my sleep aid
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    Today was suppose to be a workout day but I had to listen to my body and take today off to get some rest. I hate it because I feel like a lazy turd for not going to the gym but all day today I haven't even got out of my pj's I watched patriots beat the bills while munchin on some snacks that's about as anabolic as I have been today

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    Current pic as of yesterday 191 lbs

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    Sub'd for a good log. November I start damn-near the same cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    Sub'd for a good log. November I start damn-near the same cycle.
    Sweet bro hope it treats u as well as its been treating me I love t-bol
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    Today makes the 3 week mark of being on cycle my weight today was 195 that puts me up 15 lbs in 3 weeks my arms have went up 3/4" in just 3 weeks and I'm walking around with a 24 hour pump! I upped my fish oil to 6 a day and just ordered a few sups to help with joints and liver support since I have ran out also got some sleep aids to try and kick this insomnia today was chest back bis and abs weight has increased on every lift. I am currently eating around 3000 calories with 400 carb 300 prot and trying to stay under 60 fat. I have 3 weeks left of t-bol so far very pleased its actually way more than I expected!
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Today makes the 3 week mark of being on cycle my weight today was 195 that puts me up 15 lbs in 3 weeks my arms have went up 3/4" in just 3 weeks and I'm walking around with a 24 hour pump! I upped my fish oil to 6 a day and just ordered a few sups to help with joints and liver support since I have ran out also got some sleep aids to try and kick this insomnia today was chest back bis and abs weight has increased on every lift. I am currently eating around 3000 calories with 400 carb 300 prot and trying to stay under 60 fat. I have 3 weeks left of t-bol so far very pleased its actually way more than I expected!
    15lbs....yeah buddy

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    Sups came in today so hopefully I will get some sleep tonight its been a rough 3 weeks with this insomnia garbage. Hit legs shoulders and tris today highest squat today was 355X5 which I'm very happy with.
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    Nice work man
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    So I tried g8 last night holy crap that makes u feel weird I had a panic attack as soon as it kicked in sad news though. Still didn't sleep for crap
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    30mg SD for 4 weeks?? After tbol for 6 weeks?? Don't be silly bro that's far from necessary...Have you ever ran Sdrol before? You'll make very solid gains from it running 3 weeks at 20mg...30mg is just going to be HELL. Most people I know who attempted 4 weeks ended up quitting after 3 because it was too much. You only have one liver, don't kill it brotha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredology View Post
    30mg SD for 4 weeks?? After tbol for 6 weeks?? Don't be silly bro that's far from necessary...Have you ever ran Sdrol before? You'll make very solid gains from it running 3 weeks at 20mg...30mg is just going to be HELL. Most people I know who attempted 4 weeks ended up quitting after 3 because it was too much. You only have one liver, don't kill it brotha
    I have ran sd two different times both with 30mg being the sweet spot I will have 4 weeks off orals between the t-bol and SD and I'm only doing the SD if my blood panel doesn't show too much damage to the liver. Good looking out though. Bloods will be what I go off of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post

    I have ran sd two different times both with 30mg being the sweet spot I will have 4 weeks off orals between the t-bol and SD and I'm only doing the SD if my blood panel doesn't show too much damage to the liver. Good looking out though. Bloods will be what I go off of.
    Very common and very manageable practice. 1 month for liver recovery is fine.
    Hell, your liver can be cut in half and regenerate in less than 6....
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    So I tried g8 last night holy crap that makes u feel weird I had a panic attack as soon as it kicked in sad news though. Still didn't sleep for crap
    Seriously?
    ...sucks bro....did you take a full scoop?

    Some prefer half a scoop....
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    Quote Originally Posted by edje007 View Post

    Seriously?
    ...sucks bro....did you take a full scoop?

    Some prefer half a scoop....
    Tried 1 full scoop talk about getting a chemical high that shizt F'D me up it was a lot different from other sleep aids I have tried I'm going to go with half scoop tonight and see if that's any better. I'm starting to think that I didn't sleep because I was freaking out by how much I felt the effects
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    Sounds crazy man, think I need to try a sample of that lol
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    yo op. I hear you on insomnia. I use to take ambien but I would sleep walk and wake up groggy as hell. What works for me is 10mg of melatonin 2 hours before , right before I have L-dopa, and 750mg magnessium, and relora. maybe give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jking4 View Post
    yo op. I hear you on insomnia. I use to take ambien but I would sleep walk and wake up groggy as hell. What works for me is 10mg of melatonin 2 hours before , right before I have L-dopa, and 750mg magnessium, and relora. maybe give it a try.
    Might give that a shot if I can't get use to this g8 I tell you though I just took it 10min ago and I'm FD up this should be illegal with how it makes our body feel I kind of like it but right as it kicks in I have a panic attack then I'm like alright its cool lol
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    It kind of makes u itch though which is counter productive it almost feels like beta alanine oddly enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClayTonic View Post
    Sounds crazy man, think I need to try a sample of that lol
    Pretty crazy stuff bro hella makes u feel weird
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post
    Might give that a shot if I can't get use to this g8 I tell you though I just took it 10min ago and I'm FD up this should be illegal with how it makes our body feel I kind of like it but right as it kicks in I have a panic attack then I'm like alright its cool lol
    damn man. well hope it all works out. I hate not being ble to sleep. I'm always a dick when I am unable to sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by jking4 View Post

    damn man. well hope it all works out. I hate not being ble to sleep. I'm always a dick when I am unable to sleep
    Lol I'm a d*ck all the time. when I don't sleep I'm unbareable lol but actually last night after I made that post I passed out and didn't wake up for 10 hours first great nice sleep I have had in 3 weeks I'm goin to stick to half a scoop
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    Quote Originally Posted by live to lift View Post

    Lol I'm a d*ck all the time. when I don't sleep I'm unbareable lol but actually last night after I made that post I passed out and didn't wake up for 10 hours first great nice sleep I have had in 3 weeks I'm goin to stick to half a scoop
    Yeah buddy.....couldn't imagine anything else from G8....stick to half a scoop, and take some days off....5 on 2 off or something like that.
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    Subbed I got lgi alpha 20 , test e and now I'm gonna copy you with the sd end for my next cycle I like the reccomendation of maybe double dose the aegis after the first oral
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    Quote Originally Posted by goat23 View Post
    Subbed I got lgi alpha 20 , test e and now I'm gonna copy you with the sd end for my next cycle I like the reccomendation of maybe double dose the aegis after the first oral
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    Dealing with some pretty crazy joint pain today I'm starting to think I might have some form of tendonitis. Lifts today were up and got a great workout in hit a pr on dumbbell incline press which was awesome. I have also been hitting a lot more trisets and giant sets and focusing on the pump which is really blowing up my shoulders. Weight today was 197. Anyone have any suggestions for my sore elbow joints other than supps as I'm already taking a slew of them
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    In for answers on the joint pain. Common problem with rapid muscle gain on anabolics while tendons struggle to keep up. I've dealt with this during and after every cycle. Mine starts at the bottom of my left bicep and ends up affecting my elbow where the tricep ties in, my forearm. Its hurts to pick up a cup of water sometimes. Rest and stretching are all that have helped.
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