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    Hy everyone,

    i'll gone start my first cycle with ph hdrol next month and i would like to have some advice.

    Hdrol 6 weeks
    75/75/75/75/75/75
    Cycle assist product + 2g omega3 + multi + taurine if needed
    Pct with nolva 20/20/10/10 + 3g daa

    My target is to cut so i will use it with hypocaloric diet (-400kcal from tee?). Any advice about protein, fat and carbohydrate intake?

    What should i espect from this cycle?

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    How much do you currently weigh? You have a great stack for first cycle. You can expect a good 6-9 lbs gain with hdrol and a reduction in body fat

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    Adding something like nolvadren-xt to your pct would be a good idea, everything else looks good. Consider a test base as well. Calculate your tdee first and once your diet is right then consider hdrol...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    How much do you currently weigh? You have a great stack for first cycle. You can expect a good 6-9 lbs gain with hdrol and a reduction in body fat
    6lbs plus body fat reduction sounds like a winner
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    thanks very much for the comments, its very important for me to have some advice from expert.

    currently i'm 160,6 lbs on 175cm .. bf around 14-15 i suppose.
    what do you suggest to do? my tee is around 2300kcal ..

    question: i will have also gain with hypocaloric diet? or only reducing of bf?
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    2300 tdee?
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    yes 2300kcal tdee
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolicmind View Post
    yes 2300kcal tdee
    Haha not sure what "tdee" stands for. Yes it can be more difficult to build muscle on a calorie deficit diet. What are your macros?
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    Total daily energy expidenture
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolicmind View Post
    yes 2300kcal tdee
    Is that after you subtracted cals? Its very low
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    Yes i mean TDEE. mine is around 2300kcal. i'm 160lbs and 175cm, 22yo and sedentary life in off days. during cycle i will do 5 split workout but i dont do cardio.
    low carb is a good choice? how many calories do you suggest for cut? keep in mind that from this cycle i want a little gains, with pumps and some strenght, bf reducing as well
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    furthermore advice are appreciated
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    up your protein intake to 1.5 grams per lb of bodyweight while on cycle. watch your blood pressure on halodrol, i got pretty bad headaches and had to eat a bunch of bp-lowering foods along with cycle support.
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    1)Why i need to increase protein intake?
    2) Only 4 cps of CEL cycle assist is a good dosage?
    3) you suggest mantainance calories or less?

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    to add muscle; steroids increase protein synthesis
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    my cycle support

    N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine – 750 mg
    Milk Thistle (Standardized to 80% Silymarin) – 500 mg
    Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) – 500 mg 5000%
    Hawthorn Berry Extract (Standardized to 1.8% Vitexin) – 300 mg
    Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCL) – 50mg 2500 %
    Saw Palmetto Extract (Standardized to 45% Fatty Acids) – 160 mg
    Celery Seed Extract (10:1) – 75 mg
    Grape Seed Extract (95% Proanthocyanidins) – 75 mg
    Policosanol – 20 mg
    Zinc Gluconate – 15 mg 100%

    What about this TOTAL dosage day?
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    what's it say on the bottle?
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    the dosage above is for 4cps.
    the bottle say to take 8 pills.

    i suppose 4 is ok, its very expensive product
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    well, will it last you a full cycle taking 8 a day? if not, try 4 a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolicmind View Post
    the dosage above is for 4cps.
    the bottle say to take 8 pills.

    i suppose 4 is ok, its very expensive product
    I would recommend taking the full 8 cap dose

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    Supposing 4 caps is sufficient. Some other product have the same dosage of only 4cps of cycle assist.
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    Correct term is Estimated Eaily Energy Expenditure

    Cause that's what it is, an estimate. And a inaccurate one most likely.

    Just saying.

    Thought you guys were talking about tee pee for a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolicmind View Post
    Supposing 4 caps is sufficient. Some other product have the same dosage of only 4cps of cycle assist.
    There is only one cel cycle assist.
    All others just don't cut it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolicmind View Post
    Supposing 4 caps is sufficient. Some other product have the same dosage of only 4cps of cycle assist.
    You wont find the same dosage and same EXTRACTS(that is the important part) as Cycle Assist

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    There is only one cel cycle assist.
    All others just don't cut it.
    N2 guard is pretty damn good as well as hcgenerate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post

    N2 guard is pretty damn good as well as hcgenerate.
    Didn't like n2 guard.

    Hcgen is overpriced
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    5'9" 160 and you're cycling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    5'9" 160 and you're cycling?
    This...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Didn't like n2 guard.

    Hcgen is overpriced
    Agree on the price, but I dunno I feel like n2 competes with cycle assist.
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    You can't go wrong with either CEL Cycle Assist or N2Guard both a great products. N2Guard may actually have a slightly better ingredient profile IMO.
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    Yea, if you like to worry about lead or any other contaminants in your products
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Yea, if you like to worry about lead or any other contaminants in your products
    I have not heard this before. Where are you getting that info bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELROCK View Post
    I have not heard this before. Where are you getting that info bro?
    well, back when monsterdrol xt was released, someone from ibe had some tested, and it was found to contain things like caffeine, lead, and other contaminants. no di methyl phera though.
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    Can someone post the most current ingred profile of need2guard

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    Acrltually nevermind I found it. I must say that is probably one of the worst on cycle products ive ever seen. It contains a kitchen sink formula of worthless ingreds and the ones that are beneficial are dosed way too low to do anything.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Acrltually nevermind I found it. I must say that is probably one of the worst on cycle products ive ever seen. It contains a kitchen sink formula of worthless ingreds and the ones that are beneficial are dosed way too low to do anything.........
    I've thought this same thing. I don't get it
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    I actually just canceled my elite fitness account. They are so ****ing shady I don't even know where to begin. Whenever I call them out or ask a critical thinking question about their product that actually makes sense they remove my post. I'm guessing because they don't have an answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    I actually just canceled my elite fitness account. They are so ****ing shady I don't even know where to begin. Whenever I call them out or ask a critical thinking question about their product that actually makes sense they remove my post. I'm guessing because they don't have an answer
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