m-sten or alpha-1

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    Question m-sten or alpha-1


    hey guys its been a while how's everyone? Anyhow I was curious on your guys thoughts on which would give more mass and strength or just mass in 30 days- 20mgs a day of m-sten or 40mgs a day of alpha-1? Any opinions would be helpful.

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    havnt taken any so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

    but id give it to alpha one. unless you use some tainted ass msten thats really just sd
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    Thanks bro but what I have mega-sten from shredded labs and alpha-20 from LGI. I guesss I should let everybody know I'm also cruising on 250mgs of test cyp.
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    I would say its a toss up. Lgi alpha 20 is stronger but the sides are very harsh. I see lots of post about no appetite at all with it ( among other things). If you can't eat your not going to gain as much. I would say it would all depend on how your body reacts to each product.
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    Based on pretty much everything I've ever read, m1a at 40mg for 30 days is gonna get mighty rough. Wicked appetite suppression seems to be a consistent complaint. I've ran msten before up to 40mg for four weeks and was pretty much solid across the board until the last five or six days.
    If you start a thread about a cycle with four methyls or the phrase NEED HELP!!!, you should probably just go kill yourself.
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    Ok I logged in to comment alpha 20 was awesome I ran it at 60mg for 3 weeks and had stuff all sides bar a puffy nip in the last couple of days, I've never had m sten but is it not a poor mans version of sd? I run sd all the time and the sides of sd kill those if alpha. I have never felt as good on orals as I did alpha but I get better gains from sd
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    sd =/= msten
    sd sides > msten sides
    sd gains > msten gains

    Wow. 60mg. How was your appetite? How much weight did you end up keeping?
    If you start a thread about a cycle with four methyls or the phrase NEED HELP!!!, you should probably just go kill yourself.
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    Appetite was fine I was shocked as I lose appetite late 2nd early 3rd week of sd,I put on around 18 pounds on the alpha cycle kept I'd say 12 I should say I was running oral tren with it too at 100mg ed
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    Just read a thread from a guy that was puking with nose bleeding at the same time while on alpha 20.
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    What about Alpha-4d from Shredded labs? 20mg of alpha-1 and 30mg of m14add per capsule looks to be a great bulker.
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    To answer your question, alpha would provide more mass if all variables are the same, however I'd go with sten for 6 weeks..
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    Thanks for all the input guys, I think I'm going to try the alpha plus I have some oral trendione I made myself, only thing that sucks is that god aweful everclear taste and burn. If so I'll run it at 60mgs a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremiah0079 View Post
    Thanks for all the input guys, I think I'm going to try the alpha plus I have some oral trendione I made myself, only thing that sucks is that god aweful everclear taste and burn. If so I'll run it at 60mgs a day.
    Both can give a lot of size and strength. M1a might give more instant gratification, but it can also give worse sides in many cases. Ultimately, if you end up lowering the dose or stopping early with 40mg of m1a due to sides, you might not get as much from it as you would have with a full cycle of something more mild like msten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jason79 View Post
    Both can give a lot of size and strength. M1a might give more instant gratification, but it can also give worse sides in many cases. Ultimately, if you end up lowering the dose or stopping early with 40mg of m1a due to sides, you might not get as much from it as you would have with a full cycle of something more mild like msten.
    Well I got both so I'M starting with aplha, from there who knows, will give an update shortly on my experience.
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    I ran the alpha straight into 3 weeks of sd! Was phenomenal but I'm pretty hardened to sd I would not reccomend it to anyone and don't stack them
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremiah0079 View Post
    Well I got both so I'M starting with aplha, from there who knows, will give an update shortly on my experience.
    best of luck.
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