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    12 Week Dianabol, Test, Tren lean bulking cycle log


    Whats going on everyone, this is my first post and first log on this website. The goal is to motivate others and to hear all of your comments and suggestions.

    First some of my stats.
    Age 22
    Height 5' 10"
    Weight 183 lbs
    Body Fat % 13-14

    I have been researching AAS and PES for quite some time and this will be my 2nd cycle. The goal of this cycle is to make lean yet drastic muscle gains.

    Cycle Layout
    Weeks 1-12 Test Cyp 625 mg per week
    Weeks 1-4 Dianabol 40 mg
    Weeks 6-12 Tren Ace 350 mg per week
    Weeks 1-15 .5 mg Adex ED Bumped up if gyno occurs, or perhaps add nolva
    Weeks 6-13 Dostinex for Tren Prolacting issues, still working out the dosage for that

    Got Letro on hand incase of gyno flare up
    I am prone to gyno

    PCT will consist of an HCG blast at 500 ius for 10 days
    4 days after HCG, Clomid and Nolva for 6 weeks.

    My training split is as follows:
    Monday
    Chest& Bicepts
    16 working sets for Chest
    9 workin sets for Bis

    Tuesday
    Cardio and Abs, Traps

    Wednesday
    Deadlifts and shoulders

    Thursday
    OFF

    Friday
    Cardio Legs, Abs

    Saturday
    Back and Tris

    Sunday
    Off

    I will be eating a clean diet, with 3,500 Calories a day. Perhaps increase calories as cycle progresses to promote new growth
    5 Hearty Meals a day with high protein, carbs and fats in moderation

    Supplementing with whey protein, casein, maybe creatine, fish oil, CEL CYCLE ASSIST for liver blood support, and Amino Acids during my workouts or throughout the day if its an OFF day

    I will be posting logs as my cycle progresses with progress pictures and new stats

    Can someone please tell me how to upload a profile pic and to upload pictures to thread?
    Lol i'm new here and absolutely clueless

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    Anyone?
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    I'm prone to gyno too... I don't respond to adex very well (likely e2)and will be running aromasin on my upcoming bulk and always prami/caber on hand. Everything looks good to me... I won't touch tren and can't advise on it but the choice of ace on a first-go and the dose look responsible although some say to run the test lower with tren. You've got two compounds that have potential for a lot of sides. But it could be ahell of alotta fun! Minus the insomnia, rage, and*night sweats from tren.
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    looks good kill it
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    **** ya bro! Going to love it. I'm running test cyp 15 weeks an multi for 8 weeks
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    Hahah I'm actually looking forward to the tren sides, that's how you know it's working real good =)
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    Hell Yeah broski! I'ma kill that ****! Im starting the cycle on monday. Right now just front loading with milk thistle and hawthorn berry. Taking it a lil easy in the gym this week letting my body rest a little before i hit it hard =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianAK47 View Post
    Whats going on everyone, this is my first post and first log on this website. The goal is to motivate others and to hear all of your comments and suggestions.

    First some of my stats.
    Age 22
    Height 5' 10"
    Weight 183 lbs
    Body Fat % 13-14

    I have been researching AAS and PES for quite some time and this will be my 2nd cycle. The goal of this cycle is to make lean yet drastic muscle gains.

    Cycle Layout
    Weeks 1-12 Test Cyp 625 mg per week
    Weeks 1-4 Dianabol 40 mg
    Weeks 6-12 Tren Ace 350 mg per week
    Weeks 1-15 .5 mg Adex ED Bumped up if gyno occurs, or perhaps add nolva
    Weeks 6-13 Dostinex for Tren Prolacting issues, still working out the dosage for that

    Got Letro on hand incase of gyno flare up
    I am prone to gyno

    PCT will consist of an HCG blast at 500 ius for 10 days
    4 days after HCG, Clomid and Nolva for 6 weeks.

    My training split is as follows:
    Monday
    Chest& Bicepts
    16 working sets for Chest
    9 workin sets for Bis

    Tuesday
    Cardio and Abs, Traps

    Wednesday
    Deadlifts and shoulders

    Thursday
    OFF

    Friday
    Cardio Legs, Abs

    Saturday
    Back and Tris

    Sunday
    Off

    I will be eating a clean diet, with 3,500 Calories a day. Perhaps increase calories as cycle progresses to promote new growth
    5 Hearty Meals a day with high protein, carbs and fats in moderation

    Supplementing with whey protein, casein, maybe creatine, fish oil, CEL CYCLE ASSIST for liver blood support, and Amino Acids during my workouts or throughout the day if its an OFF day

    I will be posting logs as my cycle progresses with progress pictures and new stats

    Can someone please tell me how to upload a profile pic and to upload pictures to thread?
    Lol i'm new here and absolutely clueless
    If your running tren you need to lower the test dose drastically IMO. 100mg a week
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    In for this one. Cycle looks good except as stated above about the test way higher then tren... Some people do better like this tho so to each his own. Interested to see how it treats you. What was your previous cycle?
    It's BULKING season: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/254139-swol-boones-quest.html
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    I agree with the tren test. But with these things no one person is the same you gotta experiment and find what works for you so I say go for it and adjust accordingly and let us know!!
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    There is no right or wrong way to run test an tren. Its all how the individual chooses to . Everyone is different
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    What is the thought process for running lower doses of test with tren? The only one I can think of is if you're cutting (which I'm not, the goal is to lean bulk) and you want to look as dry as possible thats why you lower test. I like to keep test high because of the euphoria i get

    Boonema77,

    My first and only cycle (not counting PH) was just a simple 8 week test prop and winny. Ran baby dose of Test at 350 a week and winny 50 mg a day. Lost a few percentages of bodyfat and went from 185 to 195, had decent strengh gains. That was just a dip in the water ya feel me to see how hot the water is. I ended up losing my gains cuz right after PCT my I went to Russia for vacation and pissed it all away with vodka lol.
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    Still Frontloading on CEL cycle assist, excited cycle starts on Monday =)
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    Dude I'd be careful with Dostinex, proven to cause heart valve issues. I dropped it immediately after reading further research.

    Don't what you may, but you are fkn YOUNG kid, and starting this early with Dostinex is something to think about.

    I won't touch the sht after some of the current research out there for its use with Parkinson patients.

    Otherwise kill it and get BLOOD WORK!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianAK47 View Post
    What is the thought process for running lower doses of test with tren? The only one I can think of is if you're cutting (which I'm not, the goal is to lean bulk) and you want to look as dry as possible thats why you lower test. I like to keep test high because of the euphoria i get

    Boonema77,

    My first and only cycle (not counting PH) was just a simple 8 week test prop and winny. Ran baby dose of Test at 350 a week and winny 50 mg a day. Lost a few percentages of bodyfat and went from 185 to 195, had decent strengh gains. That was just a dip in the water ya feel me to see how hot the water is. I ended up losing my gains cuz right after PCT my I went to Russia for vacation and pissed it all away with vodka lol.
    Well the main reason to run test lower is that tren has far better binding affinity to all of the receptors so it "hogs" all of them leaving the test with nowhere to bind and thus most likely just be converted to estrogen. The best way I've seen this described is you only have so many garages (receptors) and you're gonna park your Lamborghinis (tren) in them first and only when all the lambos are parked will you try to fill in the rest with your other cars (test). Most of the test just gets left to the side to aromatize.
    It's BULKING season: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/254139-swol-boones-quest.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post

    Well the main reason to run test lower is that tren has far better binding affinity to all of the receptors so it "hogs" all of them leaving the test with nowhere to bind and thus most likely just be converted to estrogen. The best way I've seen this described is you only have so many garages (receptors) and you're gonna park your Lamborghinis (tren) in them first and only when all the lambos are parked will you try to fill in the rest with your other cars (test). Most of the test just gets left to the side to aromatize.
    ^^^^^^^ this in a nut shell.
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    Hahah that's a great Garage , Lamborghini analogy )


    Okay the whole test competing with tren for receptor sites sounds reasonable. I will look more into that subject. I wouldn't want to deal with a **** ton of aromatizing test especially since I am prone to gyno, and also it would be a waste of juice. Perhaps I will switch over in week 6 from test cyp to test prop and run that at 350. So maybe il do 350 test prop matched with 350 tren ace starting from week 6.
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    Okay so I thought about it and this is what I'm going to do. I will still go as originally planned, run test at 625 a week and tren ace 350 a week. If I start noticing symptoms of elevated estrogen I will know that test is being pushed out of receptors by tren and aromatizing and basically going to waste. Then I will drop the Tren completely and save it for my spring cutting cycle where my test dosage will be much lower.

    If I don't see any negative estrogen side affects with addition of tren ace in week 6, I will process to take it until cycles end. The goal of this cycle is to build muscle and keep fat level constant and both tren and test are great for that.
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    I would run test a week or so past your tren. Will help ease you into PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianAK47 View Post
    Okay so I thought about it and this is what I'm going to do. I will still go as originally planned, run test at 625 a week and tren ace 350 a week. If I start noticing symptoms of elevated estrogen I will know that test is being pushed out of receptors by tren and aromatizing and basically going to waste. Then I will drop the Tren completely and save it for my spring cutting cycle where my test dosage will be much lower.

    If I don't see any negative estrogen side affects with addition of tren ace in week 6, I will process to take it until cycles end. The goal of this cycle is to build muscle and keep fat level constant and both tren and test are great for that.
    Solid plan. Really in theory you only need like TRT levels of test (150-250mg/week) while on tren since its only to keep your libido and other test related functionality while you're shut down. My run I'm planning on doing 50mg tren and 25 mg test ED (350 and 175 tren:test/week)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianAK47 View Post
    Hahah that's a great Garage , Lamborghini analogy )

    Okay the whole test competing with tren for receptor sites sounds reasonable. I will look more into that subject. I wouldn't want to deal with a **** ton of aromatizing test especially since I am prone to gyno, and also it would be a waste of juice. Perhaps I will switch over in week 6 from test cyp to test prop and run that at 350. So maybe il do 350 test prop matched with 350 tren ace starting from week 6.
    Dude trust me you only need like 100mg of test a week. 350 is too much if your prone to gyno your going to have a **** ton of aromatizing test converting to estro.
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    Thanks a lot for the feedback guys!


    Hahah so tren is some serious **** you don't really need high levels of test to see great results.
    Thinking about saving tren altogether for cut cycle well see how things go!
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    Pump house,


    Well if I'm running test Cyp with Tren Ace then I don't need to stop tren ace a week before test.
    Reason is test cyp will linger longer in my blood than tren ace because its longer ester brah

    If I was running test prop then yes I would see the reason in stopping tren a week early
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    Cycle , training and diet look spot on bro... good luck and happy gains....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianAK47 View Post
    Pump house,

    Well if I'm running test Cyp with Tren Ace then I don't need to stop tren ace a week before test.
    Reason is test cyp will linger longer in my blood than tren ace because its longer ester brah

    If I was running test prop then yes I would see the reason in stopping tren a week early
    I would still run a week past, if it was prop I would run it two weeks past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RussianAK47 View Post
    Thanks a lot for the feedback guys!

    Hahah so tren is some serious **** you don't really need high levels of test to see great results.
    Thinking about saving tren altogether for cut cycle well see how things go!
    You won't get any (or maybe like .000001%) of your gains from the test. It's strictly for "feel good" physiological reasons. Technically you don't need it at all but chances are you'd just feel like ass.
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    Okay guys its Monday August 26th and first day of my cycle. Popped 20 mg dianabol this morning with usual support supps. Had a huge breakfast at the university cafeteria (its a buffet so i feast everytime i go =) and now ready to go hit chest and bis. How long does it usually take for the DBol to kick in? I know with the test cyp its 3-4 weeks so i got some time before i start reaping sweet gains
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    Dbol give it a week. Test cyp give 5 or 6 weeks.
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    Did you start pinning today too? And what wa the final decision on the tren?
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    I start pinning tmrw 1.25 CC test cyp.

    5-6 weeks to feel test cyp? Dammmn that's a ****ing long time are you sure about that?
    I heard 4 week tops at some forums

    What I'm doing about tren is I'm still going to try it out in week 6. If I experience strong negative estrogenic side effects I will drop it.
    If It all goes well I will continue to run it.
    It's good because its a very short ester.
    Versatile in fast and out fast if need be
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    No way I felt test cyp at week 3 , an tren at week 4
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    There is something wrong with your test if it takes 5 to 6 weeks haha
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    You'll "feel" it at week 2 or 3. Won't see results from it til 5 or 6.
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    Sounds good pump house!

    So yeah I got impatient today and just said **** it I'm starting injections this Monday and next one will be Thursday. Needle went in smooth like cutting butter lol actually felt good
    Did 1.3 CC cyp

    I'm also thinking of injecting some prop while I wait for cyp to kick in. Just 350 a week of prop for first 2-3 weeks to compliment the dbol I'm already taking. Get a strong kickstart to my cycle. Yes I know I'm impatient lol

    What do you guys think?

    Or.. I can save the prop towards end of my cycle and while I wait for the cyp ester to clear my system before I start pct I can do a few weeks of prop injections to keep test elevated ...
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    Okay so today is officially day 1 of my cycle.

    Took 40 mg of Dianabol and injected 1.25 CC of test cyp.

    Weight: 182 lbs


    I think it may have been in my head but I was hungry like a beast all ****in day. Ate well today, hit 3500 calories, around 300 grams of protein. Mostly clean diet.

    Hit the gym hard did chest and bis.

    Put up 225 on incline bench for 5x5s
    Struggled on last few sets.

    Lets see how fast until I start seein major strength gains from dbol...
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    Don't bother with the prop. Just let the dbol work it's magic. If anything throw it in near the end.
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    Im on week 4 of my cycle an up 9lbs
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    You need to check some of DetroitHammers posts on tre and test. He has a lot of knowledge. The posts will really help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack_black View Post
    You need to check some of DetroitHammers posts on tre and test. He has a lot of knowledge. The posts will really help you.
    Agreed. The man knows a ton and on top of his knowledge has a very good way of explaining his reasoning for some of his non-traditional uses and ideas. He's pretty much a walking pioneer of interesting trials
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    Okay i will check out DetroitHammers posts see what hes got to say.

    Day 2
    Had a nice back workout today. the gyms AC was broken so i was sweating bullets but still killed it. Bent Over back rows, pullups, pulldowns.
    Strength is same as before but i'm not expecting much yet, its only day 2.

    Put up 185 on bent over back rows 10 reps, 4 sets, good form.
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