12 Week Dianabol, Test, Tren lean bulking cycle log
- 09-24-2013, 02:16 PM
- 09-28-2013, 05:37 PM
Before picture. I was 1 week into cycle, around 185 lbs.
I know i look young, im only 22. Dont badger me for using anabolics at a young age, I am well aware of the pros and cons and made an informed decision.
09-28-2013, 05:44 PM
After picture, around 4-5 weeks into cycle.
Up to 200-202 lbs, stronger, holding alot more water from dianabol.
Week 5 is coming to an end. I am stuck at around 201-202 lbs for a week and half already guys.
Correct me if im wrong, but I am thinking that because I discontinued Dianabol after week 4, ive been dropping the water. But because I am still in a calorie surplus and on 600 mg of Test a week, i am building muscle, so my weight is staying the same. Is this right?
In a week I will lower test to 250 mg a week, add tren at 350 mg, winstrol at 50 mg a day, and clen at 120-140 mcg.
Lowering carbs and calories to 2500. 15 min HIIT cardio before every training session.
My goal is to drop down to 175-180 lbs and be ripped, around 8 percent Body fat.
Right now I am at around 15 percent body fat and 202 lbs holding a good amount of water.
Is my plan achievable with a 10 week cutting cycle?
09-28-2013, 05:46 PM
Fueled Passion why are you taking pro-hormones? Considering the health hazards and endocrine suppresion from them, might as well take the real gear...
09-29-2013, 04:54 PM
09-29-2013, 05:02 PM
09-30-2013, 10:57 AM
I'm on TRT due to going the "real gear" route. I don't cycle anymore, and I'm always shutdown. I care about my health and avoiding addictive tendencies moreso than I do @ being 200lbs and shredded at this point. I'll get there, it'll just take more time.
Not to mention that H-drol is simply a two-step process to Oral T. Plus, the legalilty is a concern for me. Consider it a personal conviction..
I personally wish Testosterone was legal. I understand banning Tren because a few weeks on that stuff and any man can know in his heart that it doesn't belong in his body, but test? It's hardly an offender. Everything is mild on side effects and the gains in strength, size and sex drive are outstanding. If it were legal, I'd just blast and cruise with 150mg cruise and 800-1000mg blast. But it isn't legal, and so I want to honor the law (however much I disagree with it).
To the OP,
Tren will cut you down and give you muscle mass all at the same time. You can either have an outstanding bulk - where accumulating fat is impossible, or you can have a cut where not an ounce of muscle is lost. My suggestion - eat tons of protein. Tren loves protein and responds well to low carb diets, too.
09-30-2013, 10:59 AM
09-30-2013, 12:05 PM
FP now i understand why you don't use gear anymore. I am afraid of being permanently shutdown... going to up my HCG to 1500 IUs a week 750 monday 750 thursday and going to have a long and heavy pct after.... Got my fingers crossed for a fast and full recovery.
09-30-2013, 12:24 PM
So, I run a baseline of 900-1300 total T and cycle the pro-hormones as needed, which are a rare thing anyways. I use HCG as needed but when running TRT only I don't really need it.
It's a slow, steady approach rather than cycling --> getting huge --> crashing --> starting over--> repeat process.. you get the drift.
09-30-2013, 04:52 PM
09-30-2013, 05:24 PM
09-30-2013, 05:31 PM
It's almost impossible to single out changes when I'm constantly in an atypical scenario. It's either I'm super efficient with food because of the cycle or I'm terribly inefficient due to PCT and having low hormone levels. Neither serves to tell me how my body reacts to different foods, macros or caloric intakes because neither of these are normal, sustainable states of anabolism.
Same goes for lifting, too. Can't tell which style or rep range works best while I'm in super-anabolic mode or super-crash mode. You just don't learn anything about your training and diet when constantly cycling steroids.
09-30-2013, 06:07 PM
If you aren't keeping gains, ,size , strength, appetite after you're cycle your doing something wrong lol
09-30-2013, 07:14 PM
Not always applicable... The last two posts came from guys that either genetically or due to cycling, have lower test levels already. And I'm also assuming you're referring to dry compounds, because I've never heard of anyone keeping 100% of what they gained on dbol, etc...
09-30-2013, 07:15 PM
You'll never keep 100% of your gains . But you definitely can keep up to 75% of your gains on injects for sure. Diet an pct protocol that's how ya stay big
09-30-2013, 07:51 PM
It's sometimes just hard to eat enough and train hard enough after the cycle. At least for me it definitely takes a lot more discipline
09-30-2013, 08:13 PM
If somebody is unable to recover from a cycle, and they are put on TRT for the rest of their life, does that make him sterile and unable to have children?
09-30-2013, 08:15 PM
09-30-2013, 08:20 PM
09-30-2013, 08:29 PM
09-30-2013, 09:25 PM
10-01-2013, 10:02 AM
10-01-2013, 10:04 AM
I've had serious conversation with my nurse practitioner about that possibility. Fortunately, having a lazy endocrine system and remaining fertile is very possible. According to my doc, the longest fertility recovery period, if you were taking no drugs or supplements to help get it back, is 1 year. Most men become fertile again within 6 months of discontinuing testosterone use.
What isn't guaranteed is when you take Tren, D-bol, Winny, EQ, Deca, etc. There aren't studies done on those drugs.
The normal protocol for TRT patients that are going to attempt to get wifey preggers is to drop to dose down to below 100mg/wk and introduce hcg @ 250iu twice/wk. Clomid may also be used if needed.
Fertility and sperm production are still very present in TRT patients. I would know and just proved it to my wife last night.
10-01-2013, 10:38 AM
Fp did u also get her prego last night? What I mean is of course u will bust and even drench ur wife in sperm. But can that sperm actually creat a healthy baby when on trt w hcg/clomid etc..?
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