12 Week Dianabol, Test, Tren lean bulking cycle log
- 08-27-2013, 09:01 PM
- 08-28-2013, 10:28 AM
I've also decided to take Melanotan 2. i start loading up on that in a week or 2. ima get tan as ****
- 08-28-2013, 02:07 PM
08-28-2013, 02:53 PM
08-28-2013, 06:03 PM
08-28-2013, 06:06 PM
08-28-2013, 06:43 PM
08-28-2013, 06:45 PM
08-28-2013, 08:19 PM
Now just finishing my first real cycle, and wow am I glad I waited. For one my training is totally on point, and so is my understanding and complete awareness of how my body reacts to food. Not to mention the money available for all the proper blood panels, and ancillaries+supplements. But man, it has been a blast! You know why, cause I have been training a long time and when I finally break some old plateaus it means a hell of a lot more than what a 185lb barbell row means to you right now.
You will never know what it feels like to set PRs naturally.
To each his own, and I am sure you'll have a blast, but think about 3-5years from now you gonna keep doing cycles every year? What's your goal? You gonna compete? Also, your HPTA loop is gonna degrade earlier doing cycles starting at 22. Kind of like in physics, with the law of entropy.
Again, not flaming, just throwing out some unsolicited advice from an an "old" dude. Check out my log, yeah I am a CLASSIC ectomorph, but I have worked my ass off to build this body through time, work and patience. Sht doest come in one or two cycles dude.
Good luck, and for christ sake get blood panels for your test and estrogen, lipids can't hurt. AND DONT DRINK AT ALL WHIKE TAKING ORALS.
08-29-2013, 12:04 AM
Okay sonny, First I want to thank you for your input to my thread and I am a reasonable individual and open to any criticism or suggestions. Agreed 22 is not the optimal age to start taking anabolics but it is what it is. Atleast I'm not 18. I have been training for a while now, I know how to put on weight and lose weight, I am good at manipulating my diet. 183 may not seem like much to you man, but remember I am not 6 feet tall like you are, I am only 5'9 5'10. 183 is a reasonable starting weight for someone with my frame. My goal is to compete next summer, men's physique. And in 3-5 years from now I will have the body that I will be content with and I will continue to run lighter and less frequent cycles to maintain what I have. Agreed I will not drink while taking oral steroids, I value my liver too much. I am concerned about degrading my HPTA loop... That is why I am doing everything in my power to fully recover after this cycle and restore my natural hormonal balance. The HCG I am not running as part of my PCT, I am running it before I start PCT. I am also highly considering running it on cycle instead, why recover at end when you can prevent testicular atrophy all together? I congratulate you on deciding to wait so long until your first cycle, and on all the plateaus you finally broke! But I am not like you. I do have decent knowledge on how to train and diet, I have been at it for quite a number of years already. I believe that with a high protein diet with a calorie surplus post cycle.. And a lighter training program, I will be able to retain a successful portion of my gains. I am concerned about HPTA, and I believe if I take all precautions to recover fully and take all the ancillaries that my HPTA will still be running strong in the future. I will check out your threads man! Thanks again for your input!
08-29-2013, 12:31 AM
After careful consideration I have decided to revise my cycle. As soon as my BA water comes in, I will reconstitute HCG and start taking 500 ius weekly for a period of 10 weeks.
I have decided Not to run tren during this lean bulking cycle. I will save it for a cut later.
I am not running test for 12 week, doing it for 10 weeks now. Maybe some prop at the end to keep levels elevated while the long cyp ester clears out.
After cycle taking a long break to fully recover.
High protein, lighter training, slight calorie surplus to preserve my gains.
After I fully recover, then I will take test, tren, stanozol, Perhaps clen, on a cutting cycle. Goal will be to shed fat, and harden my newfound muscle. By summer time I will be in a good position to compete!
Lets make it happen broskis!
08-29-2013, 07:49 PM
2nd injection of test cyp. did 1.3 CC. I'm getting better at injections, fast and painless.
Eating 40 mgs of DBOL a day.
Also starting injecting 1 CC of Prop EOD to kickstart cycle.
Up 2 lbs in 4 days, i attribute that to mainly water weight.
My right nut was feeling weird last nut, ima have to whip out the HCG soon i feel the suppression setting in.
Killing it at the gym, feel more energetic
08-29-2013, 07:50 PM
ALSO 2nd of Melanotan injections today. Frontloading at 250-500 MCG a day for 10 days. Ima get swole and tan, Oh yeah
08-31-2013, 12:27 PM
as far as age is concerned your already into the dark side so run it proper! I'm not a fan of HCG, people are jumping on this train just to keep their balls looking nice. what you need to concern yourself with is getting labs done Test level, E2 level, FSH, LH cholesterol, prolactin. just sayn
08-31-2013, 02:57 PM
Thank you Heckler! Finally someone that understands that it's not about weather youre 22 or 25 but about how you approach and handle the whole situation. I know quite a few 30 something's that fuk up their pct and don't cycle correctly and I ASSURE YOU they're in a much worse situation that I am. I am cycling on 22, and doing everything the correct safe way, I'm going to be reaping great results
08-31-2013, 06:42 PM
08-31-2013, 09:02 PM
08-31-2013, 10:11 PM
Weighted in today at 187 up 4-5 lbs in almost a week.
I attribute that to the dbol water weight.
Had a few beers last night at a frat party, seemed to tolerate it pretty well. It's hard not to drink in college but il limiting it to 2-3 beers a week il be straight.
Will be out of gym until Tuesday going on a trip with the Fam to MASSachussets lol
Tuesday doing chest and bis, I'm interested to see how much my strength increased in a week.
Struggling to get all my meals in, today only had 3 solid meals with plenty of shakes and light snacks like Greek yogurt in between. Not even worried about that weight still goin up.
Also it's day 4 of Melanotan 2 injections.
I have olive skin by nature so I'm already seeing results with that. Got a nice tan creeping in. I'm going to have to balance it out in a tanning salon tho because my face is more tan than rest of my body
08-31-2013, 10:51 PM
09-01-2013, 01:57 AM
09-01-2013, 03:19 AM
I know what your sayn but I honestly don't know anyone personally running gears, only you twisted bastards on the forums, I like to keep it simple and stick to what I know works since I don't actually hear and see it first hand.
09-10-2013, 11:52 AM
Sorry Guys I've been Really Busy the past few weeks, with the semester starting, work, training, etc.
Well its been a little over 2 weeks now since cycle started. Im still running 40 mg Dianabol and shooting up 350 mg Test Prop and 625 MG Test cyp a week.
Definitly feeling ON, feeling good overall. Did Chest yesterday, very noticable strength gains of bench press 5X5. Did 255 lb for 5X5.
My weight is 193 lbs now, UP 10 lbs in 2 weeks since cycle started, not bad at all. I know some is water, but definitly put on a little bit of muscle as well.
I am doing an 8 week bulk, followed by an 8 week cut. So Im running this cycle for 4 months and ending right before New Years.
I just stared week 3 so 6 more weeks of bulking. I will be running clen, tren, winny on cut phase, want to get seriously striated
09-10-2013, 11:57 AM
At the end of cycle I will post pre and post pictures so you guys can see the results. Hopefully by then i will have enough posts so i can post pictures if not il just pm them to someone, Stay tuned Broski,
Something I want to mention,,
First cycle i felt amazing, aggresive, confident, energitic.
This cycle i find myself frequently depressed and tired, lots of restless nights.
Could just be in my head tho,,,
09-10-2013, 01:28 PM
Grab some b12 and inject it with the prop. If your having sore pin sites this will help that a lot. Also take away that lethargic depression thing. And up your carbs. That will help out as well. Hope it helps.
09-13-2013, 02:35 PM
Besides, this is a bulk and Test is the best for bulking. But personally, I'd start @ 300mg of each and see what happens. This is only your second cycle, man. So much could go wrong.
Either way, looks like 15-20lbs of lean tissue is on order.
09-13-2013, 02:35 PM
09-13-2013, 05:35 PM
Good advice, FP. I just came back in May after having to take some time off. Was wondering about you and your elaborate PCT's..
How did the competition go?
09-14-2013, 07:57 PM
Okay guys, the third week of my cycle is passing by. Weighted in today at 197 lbs, up 15 lbs since day 1. Ive been eating like beast, lots of carbs, protein, all clean food but a lot. I attribute a good portion of the 15 lbs gained to water weight, even with me running .5 MG Adex ED i am still heavily bloated. Could be the carbs, and lack of cardio haha.
Strength gains are way up on all lifts.
I was talking to a buddy of mine, hes a pro bodybuilder, he told me i should tighten up and cut down some towards end of cycle. So i am actually only going to bulk for next 5 weeks, then doing a 8 week cut.
As I enter the cutting phase of cycle, things will change dramatically...
1. 20 min HIIT cardio before every lifting session and in the morning on an empty stomach on off days when time permits.
2. Carb Cycling... This is very crucial. Im doing two minimal carb days, only 30-40 grams post workout. 3rd day i eat 250 grams moderate carbs. 4th day cycle repeats.
3. Dropping test e to 250 mg a week. Dropping Dianabol (**** turned me into a****ing balloon)
Incorporating clen, winstrol, tren ace. Winstrol will be run at 50 mg ED, tren ace will be 350 mg a week, and i shall adjust accordingly to sides.
Clen will be in the 120-140 mcg range,2 weeks on 2 weeks off brah.
Thinking about throwing in T3 but i dont know what i want to ****s with the thyroid hmmmm
what do you guys think?
8 week bulk followed by 8 week cut, build some muscle then lose some fat to show it off.
My ideal goal is to fitness model so i dont need to be insanely huge, thinking 180-190 lbs at a very lean body fat percentage...
09-14-2013, 08:00 PM
Thanks for the motivating words FP
I would love to gain lean 15-20 lbs but because i am cutting my bulk short then running a cut after i only have 8 weeks of quaility muscle building on the anabolics. If I gain 10-15 lbs of muscle and drop 7-8 body fat percentage on this 16 week cycle, I shall be very pleased man,
09-14-2013, 09:56 PM
Geez, man. You have changed your plan like 8 times in 3 weeks!!
Just giving you a hard time, keep killing it and get us some update pics
09-16-2013, 09:30 AM
Needless to say I got my butt kicked. It was a good humbling experience though and a defining moment. I got back on the horse and at this point I'm far more developed than I was this time last year and I weigh 12lbs heavier. There's nuthin like getting waxed and having to rethink my strategy. My goals for next summer are to be 180+lbs and sub 10% BF before I start cutting.
As far as PCT's go..well, I got on TRT and HCG. So now my PCT just consists of getting healthy and making sure my cholesterol profile/CBC looks good. It's easier that way.
After those long cycles, my test was hovering between 220-320, which just wasn't cutting it. Granted, I still think my Clomid was bunk which caused the prolonged shutdown. Either way, I'll never mess with Tren E or A again. I just dont need it anymore to get things done although if I may use the Tren PH in the Summer to harden up for a show.
09-16-2013, 09:34 AM
Unless you were running EQ, 8 weeks is enough for anything. After 8 weeks I usually only notice strength and density effects. Actual weight gain always tapered at that point for me.
09-16-2013, 07:30 PM
well im having a hard time uploading progress picture. AM is telling me dimension limits are 800X800 and all my photos are larger. Im too lazy to manually resize the photo **** that.
weighted in today at 198
up 16 lbs since cycle started. Body fat is slightly higher 1%, some bloat, definitivily increased muscle mass.
Today was Chest Day
Strength gains are ****ing insane.
Pre cycle Bench Press 1 Rep Max was 300 lb
Today I did 320 lb for 1 rep
20 lbs increase in bench in 3 weeks not bad
3 more weeks until i start cutting. Got my tren, winny, clen on hand.
09-23-2013, 09:51 PM
is anyone still following this!?
just started week 5
weighted in at 201 lbs
gained 18-19 lbs since beginning
repped out 275 for 8 on flat bench
swole as ****
**** all of u
09-24-2013, 08:10 AM
09-24-2013, 02:16 PM
how about some pics? Before and after? You're pretty short so 200lbs @ 5'10" ain't bad.
I'm hoping to get to 185lbs (where you started) pretty soon. I just did an H-Drol cycle which bridged into the current GHRP-6 cycle. Up 13-14lbs for me in 7 weeks.
09-28-2013, 05:37 PM
Before picture. I was 1 week into cycle, around 185 lbs.
I know i look young, im only 22. Dont badger me for using anabolics at a young age, I am well aware of the pros and cons and made an informed decision.
09-28-2013, 05:44 PM
After picture, around 4-5 weeks into cycle.
Up to 200-202 lbs, stronger, holding alot more water from dianabol.
Week 5 is coming to an end. I am stuck at around 201-202 lbs for a week and half already guys.
Correct me if im wrong, but I am thinking that because I discontinued Dianabol after week 4, ive been dropping the water. But because I am still in a calorie surplus and on 600 mg of Test a week, i am building muscle, so my weight is staying the same. Is this right?
In a week I will lower test to 250 mg a week, add tren at 350 mg, winstrol at 50 mg a day, and clen at 120-140 mcg.
Lowering carbs and calories to 2500. 15 min HIIT cardio before every training session.
My goal is to drop down to 175-180 lbs and be ripped, around 8 percent Body fat.
Right now I am at around 15 percent body fat and 202 lbs holding a good amount of water.
Is my plan achievable with a 10 week cutting cycle?
09-28-2013, 05:46 PM
Fueled Passion why are you taking pro-hormones? Considering the health hazards and endocrine suppresion from them, might as well take the real gear...
09-29-2013, 04:54 PM
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