Test C + Tbol, then add Dbol?

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    Test C + Tbol, then add Dbol?


    Here is how my cycle is looking.

    Tbol 60mg 1-5 weeks
    Test C 250mg a week for 1-12 weeks
    Dbol 9-13 weeks at 30mg

    PCT will be clomid and Nolva

    Thinking of adding HCG at 250iu 2x a week, but not sure when this should be added.



    What is your opinion on this? I am using a lower dose of testosterone cuz I had a very bad reaction to 600mg a week at the start of this year.

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    I don't think you need hcg with those dosages


    What are you looking to accomplish from this cycle?
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    The tbol was for lean muscle, the dbol more for bulk but also for more gains. Plus I am looking to study the differing effects of both on me personally.

    I would ideally like to gain an keep about 20 lbs when all is said and done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox View Post
    The tbol was for lean muscle, the dbol more for bulk but also for more gains. Plus I am looking to study the differing effects of both on me personally.

    I would ideally like to gain an keep about 20 lbs when all is said and done.
    I think your setting your expectations to high for this cycle

    What's your age
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    Look like because diet and training is going to have main impact on this?
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    I have been lifting on and off but mostly on for about 5 years. This is my second cycle. First was 600mg of test a week.

    I train 5 days a week but am looking to maybe use a diff workout. At least on cycle. 10 sets 8 reps each seems to be ideal with people.

    Calories I go around 3500-4000 a day. Could be a bit cleaner but definitely not bad.
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    I wouldn't go below 500mg test a week from your proposed cycle I think 10lbs after pct sounds more accurate but you can up the calories a lot and gain more but it may be more fat

    No need for the hcg and maybe just keep it more simple run either tbol or dbol as a starter not both
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    Only issue I had with test at those doses was it caused massive breakouts and scarring which were never an issue my entire life up until that exact cycle. I fear testosterone in those doses again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox View Post
    Only issue I had with test at those doses was it caused massive breakouts and scarring which were never an issue my entire life up until that exact cycle. I fear testosterone in those doses again
    Try accurate on cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post

    Try accurate on cycle
    Topical accutane is beautiful, worked for me when i was younger and more susceptible to on cycle acne....oral accutane is pretty toxic though.
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    My friends what is this topical accutane you speak of
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Fox View Post
    My friends what is this topical accutane you speak of
    Its hard to find....i forgot the brand name i used...in the US topical rx are hard to find. Even my andractim DHT gel i have to get from Cyprus. the topical accutane i got from the UK.
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    Isotretinoin!!!! thats the name.
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    Thank you my brother I will pick up a prescription ASAP
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    My source recommends transdermal EQ (has DMSO already in it to maximize absorbption). Reason I want transdermal vs injection is detection time.
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