Four weeks into my first Cycle

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  1. Four weeks into my first Cycle


    Hi Guys, really would appreciate some input
    I'm 44 years old, 4 weeks into my first cycle. I just finished doing 4 weeks of dbol. Am doing 500ml of test e a week.
    I have Clomid on hand for pct. Have also been trying to get a hold of Nolvadex, but no luck.
    Will I be OK with just the Clomid. Should I be taking a natural testosterone booster on cycle and/or off?
    Any input would be appreciated
    thanks


    James H


  2. Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Hi Guys, really would appreciate some input
    I'm 44 years old, 4 weeks into my first cycle. I just finished doing 4 weeks of dbol. Am doing 500ml of test e a week.
    I have Clomid on hand for pct. Have also been trying to get a hold of Nolvadex, but no luck.
    Will I be OK with just the Clomid. Should I be taking a natural testosterone booster on cycle and/or off?
    Any input would be appreciated
    thanks

    James H
    How long is your cycle? Test e?
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  3. Everyone's different so there is no one solid answer. Some people run HcG during their cycle and choose Nolva instead of Clomid. Each to his own. The smartest thing to do is get labs drawn pre, during (optional), and post cycle, listen to your body, and make adjustments accordingly. Personally, I don't see any sense running a test booster during cycle since the exogenous test has you shut down. If anything save it for PCT.

  4. Working out the fine details before starting a cycle is recommended. Use test booster for PCT as It will be totally ineffective on cycle. Clomid is fine but torem is better.

  5. What's your pct look like right now? Lay it out for us
    Clomid will be fine as your base but a AI and natural test booster is something you will want to look into aswell
    I'm assuming your dosing your clomid something g like 100/50/50/25 or 50/50/25/25
    Get some DAA and for a AI in pct maybe erase or if you want you can go research chem and get aromasin
    Why not zoidberg?

  6. At least you had a 3 sheets to the wind pct lol
    But next time plan the whole thing out mister.
    But you have 6 to 8 weeks to get your self set up
    Why not zoidberg?

  7. I know I look like an idiot for not figuring everything out ahead of time. Appreciate the feedback. I'm doing a 10 week cycle of test e.
    all I have now is the Clomid. A guy I work with hooked me up with everything and now its a problem getting the Nolvadex.
    I know we're not supposed to talk about sources for picking stuff up, but ??? all I know is this guy from work. How do you guys find sources?
    James H

  8. Everything is fine so far. Very happy with gains, have gained about 20 lbs. Just VERY confused about pct. Also very paranoid about getting Gyno. Some people say they don't bother with it at all. Guys in the 70's it wasn't even available for.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    I know I look like an idiot for not figuring everything out ahead of time. Appreciate the feedback. I'm doing a 10 week cycle of test e.all I have now is the Clomid. A guy I work with hooked me up with everything and now its a problem getting the Nolvadex.I know we're not supposed to talk about sources for picking stuff up, but ??? all I know is this guy from work. How do you guys find sources?James H
    There are other forums that allow sourcing. Start at one of those lolThat's how I found mine, just do a proper search to make sure they are legit and your g2gAnd remember don't start until you have everything in hand
    Why not zoidberg?

  10. Woops nvm... next time don't start until you have everything lol
    Why not zoidberg?
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  11. If you have clomid, there is nothing to worry, unless your clomid ends up being bunk.
    You can get DAA as a Test Booster over any internet store, and Erase as an AI. So those two are not difficult to get a hold on.

    Beware of gyno, since test e converts into estrogen. Have Adex, for instance, at hand just to be safe.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by FranARG View Post
    If you have clomid, there is nothing to worry, unless your clomid ends up being bunk.
    You can get DAA as a Test Booster over any internet store, and Erase as an AI. So those two are not difficult to get a hold on.

    Beware of gyno, since test e converts into estrogen. Have Adex, for instance, at hand just to be safe.
    I'd dose adex at 0.5g EOD if I was running test.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Hi Guys, really would appreciate some input
    I'm 44 years old, 4 weeks into my first cycle. I just finished doing 4 weeks of dbol. Am doing 500ml of test e a week.
    I have Clomid on hand for pct. Have also been trying to get a hold of Nolvadex, but no luck.
    Will I be OK with just the Clomid. Should I be taking a natural testosterone booster on cycle and/or off?
    Any input would be appreciated
    thanks

    James H
    In addition to your clomid you need the following

    - a mild ai (formastanzol by mr supp, formasurge by bps nutrition, erase by pes, or revolution pct by finaplex will work)
    - a test booster with avenacosoides in it to boost free test (blue up by controlled labs or unleashed by protein factory both have this)
    - a test booster for libido support/ test boosting (recycle by purus labs or post cycle by protein factory are good ones)
    - d-aspartic acid

    Also I would get some hcg

    So this is what you are looking at

    1-10 test
    8-12 hcg 1000iu a week
    PCT
    13-16 clomid 50/25/25/25
    13-16 formastanzol by mr supp, formasurge by bps nutrition, erase by pes, or revolution pct by finaplex
    13-16 blue up by controlled labs or unleashed by protein factory
    13-16 recycle by purus labs or post cycle by protein factory
    13-16 d-aspartic acid 3g ed

  14. I think everyone should stop trying to confuse the guy I mean for a simple dbol test cycle pct should be a breeze. OP you have clomid you don't need nolva. 1 serm should suffice. Get some DAA as your test booster 3G daily is all you need. DAA has been proven time and time again to work in various studies to increase endogenous test levels. I would use erase pro in pct as it is a suicidal AI and has a strong anti cortisol effect. Cortisol is a big reason why people lose gains in pct as the body is in a stressed state.

  15. Clomid will be fine 2 weeks after last shot run 100, 100, 50, 50 if you get nolva 40, 40, 20, 20 youll be good

  16. Quote Originally Posted by dubfungus View Post
    Clomid will be fine 2 weeks after last shot run 100, 100, 50, 50 if you get nolva 40, 40, 20, 20 youll be good
    That looks like a pretty aggressive Clomid pct. More commonly ran as 50/50/25/25. If OP wants to start the pct at 100 for a day or two that should be ok but 2 weeks at 100 may give someone some serious sides. Studies show no need to dose that high

  17. Honestly you'll probably be fine without the hcg. Though, you may want to get some to be on the safe side, but if you were running prop instead, and for 8-9 weeks. I would definitely say it'd be unnecessary. Besides that grab some DAA and some Aromisin for on cycle/pct

  18. If you ask me clomid and daa are fine with erase. Daa is good for test booster, most the other test booster are a waste of money.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Veritatis View Post
    Honestly you'll probably be fine without the hcg. Though, you may want to get some to be on the safe side, but if you were running prop instead, and for 8-9 weeks. I would definitely say it'd be unnecessary. Besides that grab some DAA and some Aromisin for on cycle/pct
    Hcg is overkill for a simple dbol test cycle. Will it help yeah sure it will but necessary?? No.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    Hcg is overkill for a simple dbol test cycle. Will it help yeah sure it will but necessary?? No.
    Dont mean to thread jack but when would you consider hcg necessary?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by maybe0123 View Post

    Dont mean to thread jack but when would you consider hcg necessary?
    It is an ancillary. It is not necessary. However those that run cycles over 10 weeks find that it helps LH/FSH levels and keeps testicular atrophy at bay. Its just something responsible steroid users like to use.

  22. Thanks guys, working 12 hour days, will try to take all this input in and respond shortly

  23. Ok Guys, what is DAA for a test booster?
    Yeah I know Macdady, I should of got it together before I started, but I was sure i'd be able to get the Nolva. live and learn

  24. Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Ok Guys, what is DAA for a test booster?
    Yeah I know Macdady, I should of got it together before I started, but I was sure i'd be able to get the Nolva. live and learn
    DAA is DAA lol
    D-Aspartic Acid (DAA)
    Why not zoidberg?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Ok Guys, what is DAA for a test booster?
    Yeah I know Macdady, I should of got it together before I started, but I was sure i'd be able to get the Nolva. live and learn
    R.E.A.D. bro.... Hit Google and read. If your messing with your hormones on this level, stuff like DAA, HCG, Clomid potency, HPTA function, etc should be a language you are fluent in.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    R.E.A.D. bro.... Hit Google and read. If your messing with your hormones on this level, stuff like DAA, HCG, Clomid potency, HPTA function, etc should be a language you are fluent in.
    This guy seems to be We Todd Did
    Why not zoidberg?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by macdady View Post

    This guy seems to be We Todd Did
    That's twice today you've Lol'd me. Bravo good sir.

  28. Ha Ha, that's allright, have your fun. Im trying to learn here

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    That's twice today you've Lol'd me. Bravo good sir.
    Lol that is my my specialty
    Why not zoidberg?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by hildiman View Post
    Ha Ha, that's allright, have your fun. Im trying to learn here
    Well your doing it bass aackwards
    Why not zoidberg?
  

  
 

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