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  1. Only thing I would change is taking pwo dose 1-2 hours prior which it sounds like you're just about doing depending on your commute time. I'd consider moving that dose to 40mg if your bp is under control...


  2. Taking it an hour before bed is a fun one. It's normally not recommended to take within 4 hours or so of bed time as it can interfere with sleep.

    I always took mine at 6am, 12pm, 6pm. I realize it has an 8 hour half life, and there's 12 hours between the evening and the next morning dose, but you've still got plenty built up in your blood concentration to carry you through the night.

    I also dosed it at 40mg. so 2,1,1 was my daily dosing (I workout at 12:30pm).
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    Only thing I would change is taking pwo dose 1-2 hours prior which it sounds like you're just about doing depending on your commute time. I'd consider moving that dose to 40mg if your bp is under control...
    Thanks. Bp seems fine now. After I lifted it seems like everything went back to normal. Maybe it's all in my head. I appreciate all the advice.

  4. Is it possible after just four days on I would already be feeling the effects in the gym? Yesterday I felt pretty unstoppable. Even if it was just placebo I'll pay good money for it. Lol. With this being my first cycle I was worried about how my body would react so I was planing on 4 weeks of 30 mg a day, but everything seems fine. In fact I feel great so I think I'm fixing to order another bottle and go 40 for either 5 or 6 weeks unless anybody with experience can give me a reason that I shouldn't.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Rocktown View Post
    Is it possible after just four days on I would already be feeling the effects in the gym? Yesterday I felt pretty unstoppable. Even if it was just placebo I'll pay good money for it. Lol. With this being my first cycle I was worried about how my body would react so I was planing on 4 weeks of 30 mg a day, but everything seems fine. In fact I feel great so I think I'm fixing to order another bottle and go 40 for either 5 or 6 weeks unless anybody with experience can give me a reason that I shouldn't.
    No reason at all to not run 40 for 5 weeks. 6 weeks I would save for a later run and after you see how your liver enzymes are at 4-5 weeks on this cycle.(don't freak out they will be elevated, just post or pm results) And if you didn't see results quickly, pulsing orals wouldn't exist. I will argue till the day I die, you can notice/"feel" some orals faster than Test Prop.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Matthersby View Post
    No reason at all to not run 40 for 5 weeks. 6 weeks I would save for a later run and after you see how your liver enzymes are at 4-5 weeks on this cycle.(don't freak out they will be elevated, just post or pm results) And if you didn't see results quickly, pulsing orals wouldn't exist. I will argue till the day I die, you can notice/"feel" some orals faster than Test Prop.
    Will do. My liver enzymes always run a little high. The doc says not to worry about it. That some people's levels are just a little high. How long after cycle should I wait to get my physical?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Rocktown View Post

    Will do. My liver enzymes always run a little high. The doc says not to worry about it. That some people's levels are just a little high. How long after cycle should I wait to get my physical?
    Get it beginning week 4. Results by eow. Then see what you think about 1-2 more weeks, mainly for a CBC/CMP which will cover lipids, liver etc.. A few weeks after pct you could get a physical. I don't unless I cycle 10+ weeks.

  8. I just say a physical because I get one free one every year with lab test from my insurance. I was going to use this freebie after this cycle anyways just to make sure I'm ok. So I should get two done? I guess I'll just have to pay my co-pay for one set. How do I go about telling my doc I need two sets of labs done?

  9. Just get the physical after and run the epi 5 weeks max.

  10. Just checked blood pressure 125/80. That was while I was walking around the store so I hadn't been at rest before taking it. So I am pretty content with it. The scale is showing I'm up 5 lbs. is that even possible this early in the game? I can't see it in the mirror, but I sure don't want to end up getting fat in the name of fitness if you know what I mean.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Rocktown View Post
    Just checked blood pressure 125/80. That was while I was walking around the store so I hadn't been at rest before taking it. So I am pretty content with it. The scale is showing I'm up 5 lbs. is that even possible this early in the game? I can't see it in the mirror, but I sure don't want to end up getting fat in the name of fitness if you know what I mean.
    125/75 is ideal for me....so that is damn close to perfect if you ask me. esp for being on epi.

  12. I upped my dose to 40 mg a day. Everything seems to be going very well. A buddy just came back into town and gave me a bottle of mk-2866 (osterine). He said to add it in for the rest of my cycle. He's very experienced, but I don't know how safe he is. What do you guys think? He's had good results with it already.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Rocktown View Post
    I upped my dose to 40 mg a day. Everything seems to be going very well. A buddy just came back into town and gave me a bottle of mk-2866 (osterine). He said to add it in for the rest of my cycle. He's very experienced, but I don't know how safe he is. What do you guys think? He's had good results with it already.
    You should not use ostarine with the epi, save it for post-PCT. Ostarine is legit, but it may compete for the androgen receptor.....I've always used it solo. Its sort of a bad idea to use a SARM such as that with any anabolic, esp test.

  14. So should I start it as soon as I'm done with my five weeks pct?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Rocktown View Post
    So should I start it as soon as I'm done with my five weeks pct?
    yeah sort of like a bridge or "inbetween cycles" thing....some take it ultra low dose in their actual PCT, but i would not suggest that for you. Better to use it after your PCT.

  16. Great! Thanks.

  17. Today is a rest day. It's hard to make myself take a rest day because I feel like I'm waiting my havoc, but obviously they are necessary. I added 10 lbs to my bench yesterday. So all in all I would say not bad for week #1

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rocktown View Post
    Today is a rest day. It's hard to make myself take a rest day because I feel like I'm waiting my havoc, but obviously they are necessary. I added 10 lbs to my bench yesterday. So all in all I would say not bad for week #1
    Enjoy the ride. Love strength gains on Epi.

  19. ^^ agreed could only push out 275 once before my cycle just did it 7 times today. About to start my fifth week Tuesday

  20. Quote Originally Posted by traiford09 View Post
    ^^ agreed could only push out 275 once before my cycle just did it 7 times today. About to start my fifth week Tuesday
    That's great. I hope to make gains like that.

  21. I have class on Mondays so I only have about 45 minutes to get a workout in at home. All I have is dumbells ( up to 90 lbs) and a bench at home. So I always just try to hit it with high intensity and make the best of my time. Today when I came up from the basement my wife was like "WOW you look jacked!" And then kept commenting about it until I left. So apparently. I'm getting some good pumps. So far I haven't had any side effects... Maybe some very mild back pumps if that. So far I'm loving this stuff.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Rocktown View Post
    I have class on Mondays so I only have about 45 minutes to get a workout in at home. All I have is dumbells ( up to 90 lbs) and a bench at home. So I always just try to hit it with high intensity an make the best of my time. Today when I came up from the basement my wife was like "WOW you look jacked!" And then kept commenting about it until I left. So paper entry I'm getting some good pumps. So far I haven't had any side effects... Maybe some very mild back pumps if that. So far I'm loving this stuff.
    If I didn't respond so well to SD, it would be my very favorite oral.

  23. Epi kicks in fast for me especially the "on" feeling. 40mgs is where my joints get really dry and sore but seems to be my sweet spot as well. I usually start at 40 and run it throughout for 6 weeks. Dry joints and back pumps are the worst sides I get but I take a lot of support supps.

  24. If these are back pumps they go very quickly. It might just be my back being tight form squats and dead lifts. It's not even enough to justify going to buy a bottle of taurine. The only support supps I'm using are guarding (for my organs) cycle assist ( for everything else) and fish oil. But I always take fish oil. I haven't even upped my intake on that.

  25. When and if the back pumps start for you you will know. Taurine is pretty effective but it seems like it takes a couple of days before that starts working.

  26. It probably all in my head, but it seems like my nipples were very itchy for an hour or two this morning? No bumps or lumps. Not sore. Is this even possible with epi or is it just my mind playing trick on me. I thought the only time this was a concern was during pct.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Rocktown View Post
    It probably all in my head, but it seems like my nipples were very itchy for an hour or two this morning? No bumps or lumps. Not sore. Is this even possible with epi or is it just my mind playing trick on me. I thought the only time this was a concern was during pct.
    You'll know.....

  28. So I guess that means if it gets worse I should start my nova early?

  29. I guess the itchy nips were all in my head. I went to do crossfit today, for the first time since starting epi. I didn't know how well I would do with all the cardio, but a friend wanted me to come for back squats. I smashed the squats and the actuall work out. No cramping or anything. I was however way more out of breath at the end. Like gasping and about to puke. But I still dominated. But I think I will just stick to lifting for now.

  30. So I dead lifted today. At the end of my work out I did a burn out set with 225 just to gauge where I was at. I was able to lift it 21 times before my form starte to break down. That's up 4 reps since I started epi. Next week I'm going to try for a new max.
  

  
 

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