Super dmz 2.0/2epi 2A3A

[Dustin7]

I was wondering if this would be a good stack or not.
4 Week Cycle
Super Dmz 2.0 by Black stone labs- 1 cap in the am/ 1 pm
Epi by vital labs- 1 am/ 1 pm
anabolic maxtrix-2 am/ 2 pm
Ultra male-1 cap
Organ shield- 1 am/ 1 pm
taruine/hawthorne berry/msm/milk thistle(pct as well)

Post cycle
Nolvadex-20/20/20/20
Anabolic Matrix- 2 caps
Ultra male- 1 cap
Finaflex Pure test-2 am/ 2 pm
Organ Shield
Econtrol-0/0/0/3/3/3

I was thinking instead of epi, do dmz- 2 caps, then add winabol by generation x labs 0/0/200/200, or even halo extreme/ 4 andro since I have a full bottle just laying around. But im not sure just wondering what everyone elses input is.

Stats
21
5'10-205
13% bf
I have taken halo extreme and 4 andro. I gained 10 lbs off of that. Just wanting to fill out more and get leaner. I am just finish halo and wanting to start preparing for another cycle down the road.
Thanks

 

[OnionKnight]

it absolutely would not. now stop those foolish 21yo thoughts

ill put it even more bluntly. you just asked if it would be a good idea to stack dmz + msten + epistane. 1 methyl and 2 dimethyls. too much potential damage to justify

 

[macdady]

Why are people never satisfied with just one or two compounds lol

 

[Red Fox]

Super DMZ is a cancer. I hate it with my heart and soul. Avoid this at any cost.

 

[macdady]

What? Lol

 

[Red Fox]

What? Lol

Was on 600mg of test a week. Had the sex drive of a God. Took super dmz on week 7, killed libido. Destroyed blood work. Took 6 months to recover, and even now not everything has returned to normal. It is a dangerous substance, and it sucks anyway.

 

[macdady]

Wow lol looks like someone didn't cycle right? Lol
Most strong orals end up killing libido so no surprise there. methyl orals so no surprise with blood work lol
Why the hell did it take 6 months? What was your pct? Lol

 

[Red Fox]

Wow lol looks like someone didn't cycle right? Lol
Most strong orals end up killing libido so no surprise there. methyl orals so no surprise with blood work lol
Why the hell did it take 6 months? What was your pct? Lol

Hell if I know why it took so long. Maybe prolactin had something to do with it.

But dude, oral tbol is way better than dmz. I got better results after 10 days on tbol than I did the entire time was on super dmz, and my libido isn't phased. Should replace super with sh1tty dmz.


Oh and I was on RC Clomid and Nolva. I don't trust or recommend research grade serms to anyone either

 

[Matthersby]

Oh boy, another catastrophe thread. Why aren't people READING for 1-3 years before laying out cycles? WWWWHHHHYYYYYY?!?!?!

 

[macdady]

Hell if I know why it took so long. Maybe prolactin had something to do with it.

But dude, oral tbol is way better than dmz. I got better results after 10 days on tbol than I did the entire time was on super dmz, and my libido isn't phased. Should replace super with sh1tty dmz.


Oh and I was on RC Clomid and Nolva. I don't trust or recommend research grade serms to anyone either

You sure you weren't just ****ed up before and this made it worse?... I ain't had any problems with RC chit so far, then again I have a very trusted source... for research or pharm grade for that matter

 

[Matthersby]

Seriously, novice users:
Epistane 40/40/40/40/40
Torem or from reputable source 90/90/60/60
DAA 3 gms
Easy. Take your 10 lbs and move on to more advanced cycles while researching. You will soon realize taking all these stacked methyls vs. finding a good source for some Test is much easier on your body.

 

[Red Fox]

Well honestly my prolactin levels were way high before I even did the test cycle. Took two MRI's, no pituitary tumors. I started taking dostinex along with tbol recently so maybe that's why things seem good. F high prolactin, that screws you up bad

 

[rphash49]

Sdmz is a great 4week stack but as above it would be foolish to add epi. 2 pills a day is 20mg dmz and 20mg m-sten. Sides with this can be severe all by itself. 2 date it gave me the worst back pumps if I forgot to take taurine(6g a day spread out). Libido was crushed weeks 3 and 4. I put on 20 pounds and have only loss 2 pounds 2 weeks into pct.

 

[Dustin7]

I had saw that someone was going to stack dmz and epi. Just wanted to see what people would think, wasn't really planning on running it.

 

[maybe0123]

I ran sdmz at 2/2/2/3/3 got bloodwork week 5 liver values were shot, I was slightly shutdown took me about 2 weeks into pct to feel fully recovered got bloodwork done 2 weeks later and everything was good to go

Edit: I ran stano at 800+ and tudca at 500

 

[rphash49]

I ran sdmz at 2/2/2/3/3 got bloodwork week 5 liver values were shot, I was slightly shutdown took me about 2 weeks into pct to feel fully recovered got bloodwork done 2 weeks later and everything was good to go

Edit: I ran stano at 800+ and tudca at 500

I bet 30g m-sten screwed with your liver ouch.

 

[maybe0123]

Yea I started losing my appetite and knew it was time to call it quits

 

[rphash49]

Yea I started losing my appetite and knew it was time to call it quits

Dude I just noticed you did 5 weeks wow. That is one harsh cycle you ran. I'm glad your bloodwork came back gtg. I personally wait about 2 weeks post pct before I get my levels checked to allow everything to clear my system

 

[maybe0123]

I got it done 2 weeks in 5 weeks in then after pct, its all covered by insurance so why not check just to be safe. Im going to run it again in the fall but hopefully with test this time as long as I can get my hands on some quality gear. I was planning on doing sdmz 3/3/3/3 as a kicker

 

[OnionKnight]

wow your liver values were shot even with tudca? thats how you know sdmz is some harsh shet lol

people have ran superdrol with tudca and were more or less ok

 

[Red Fox]

wow your liver values were shot even with tudca? thats how you know sdmz is some harsh shet lol

people have ran superdrol with tudca and were more or less ok

not even worth it either bro its junk

 

[rphash49]

not even worth it either bro its junk

Disagree^

Have you ran it?

 

[Red Fox]

Yeah check out page 1

 

[rphash49]

Yeah check out page 1

Let me get this right you took it week 7 of a test run and from the one week you determined it was junk?

 

[Red Fox]

I took it for 3 of the 4 weeks I was planning before I gave up on it. I was doing perfect with 600mg of test a week and then dmz gets introduced and F'd everything up

 

[rphash49]

Odd cycle red fox. Anyway I'm in the 2nd week of pct after a sdmz run and my boys are back along with my libido and I'm 35 years old. Sdmz gave me the best mass results I've ever had from a cycle in just four weeks

 

[Red Fox]

You did DMZ solo, no test?

My reaction to it could have potentially had something to do with high prolactin levels but that's all speculation.

What I DO know is Turanabol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMZ

 

[rphash49]

I took it for 3 of the 4 weeks I was planning before I gave up on it. I was doing perfect with 600mg of test a week and then dmz gets introduced and F'd everything up

Well I guess that goes to show you that everyone is effected differently. I've already picked up my 2nd cycle of it planning on running in December. I have read of ultradrol(m-sten) kicking ppl ass at low doses.

 

[rphash49]

You did DMZ solo, no test?

My reaction to it could have potentially had something to do with high prolactin levels but that's all speculation.

What I DO know is Turanabol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMZ

Nope I don't pin. I probably would if it was legal.

 

[Matthersby]

Just a reminder to all that get labs done:
Elevated liver enzymes are a very normal response from an incredible organ. This will happen no matter what or how much ancillary liver support you run. The liver is meant to handle things like this(Not forever but for periods of time) It recovers, heals, and regenerates.

 

[thehogsters]

I did msten for 4 weeks at 32 mg ed with 6 weeks of trest. Wow that msten works great but my liver was seriously struggling. Libido was good thanks to the trest. Pct and libido was shot all 4 weeks. I can't wait to try stenzine but will run tudca with cycle assist for sure.

 

[OnionKnight]

i almost hopped on that bogo stenzine deal. but i figured i have 2 bottles of sd and 2 of alpha one. i think im covered in the harsh department lol