Test no ester?
I'm excited for it
Nope in and out of your body in 36 hours you can apply once per day or twice a day 1ml each timeTest no ester?
Why on earth would you go tansdermal for two very orally active compounds? And they are all going to compete with one another for transport through the skin?Transdermal test is the best way to go I'm about to use transdermal test,dbol,and anavar coming up
No but I've seen bloods showing they're bad lol
I concur. You would be simply wasting the dbol and anavar. Should just eat it and be done with it.Why on earth would you go tansdermal for two very orally active compounds? And they are all going to compete with one another for transport through the skin?Transdermal test is the best way to go I'm about to use transdermal test,dbol,and anavar coming up
Is there a full moon tonight? seems that way on this board tonight...........
Well as far as the transdermal test idea, don't let some of these guys sour you on that method of delivery, it works and works well. Especially if you amp up the absorption with DMSO or phlogel etc., and apply twice per day, as well as rotate spots morning and night. Although I hit traps and delts both morning and night since that area is the best spot to apply testosterone.
This board origins was a transdermal board. I have used it homebrew back in the day and from a compounded pharmacy as part of a Dr. prescribed TRT treatment plan. Pharma grade compounded cream at 200mg/ml applied once per day had my levels at 650. That equates to approximately 80mg/100mg week of test. You can see that that is not high absorption and that is with a pharma graded compounded cream. It is effective at sustaining decent testosterone levels but is not going to bring you to supra-physiological levels - unless of course you bathe in it - which of course is plausible. Adding DMSO and or whatever other formulas that people brag on is not going to improve the absorption astronomically (tried many different solutions and creams including PhloGel)
I completely agree, also not to derail but what kind of an engineer?This board origins was a transdermal board. I have used it homebrew back in the day and from a compounded pharmacy as part of a Dr. prescribed TRT treatment plan. Pharma grade compounded cream at 200mg/ml applied once per day had my levels at 650. That equates to approximately 80mg/100mg week of test. You can see that that is not high absorption and that is with a pharma graded compounded cream. It is effective at sustaining decent testosterone levels but is not going to bring you to supra-physiological levels - unless of course you bathe in it - which of course is plausible. Adding DMSO and or whatever other formulas that people brag on is not going to improve the absorption astronomically (tried many different solutions and creams including PhloGel)
I don't mean to sound like a dick, but, "works great" and "amazing reviews" are ambiguous and subjective statements. I'm an engineer and I prefer to look at data and not speculation. As I said before this boards roots are homebrewing so you're at a place that lived and breathed transdermals and is by no means anti-transdermal. I've been here for 10 years. I have some experience. TIFWIWYMMV
I have performed as a Quality Engineer, a Manufacturing Engineer and presently as a Process Engineer in the aero-space, semi-conductor, bio-medical and renewable energy industries. I'm not nearly as smart as that may sound.
All good I worked for a very large Aerospace company myself in the Engineering area.. I now work for a major drug manufacturer..aka I am a nerd.I have performed as a Quality Engineer, a Manufacturing Engineer and presently as a Process Engineer in the aero-space, semi-conductor, bio-medical and renewable energy industries. I'm not nearly as smart as that may sound.
I have never worked in manufacturing, I have been in the engineering side or R&D since college hell im not even sure how it happened since I did not even go to school for the area in which I work...
LOl yeah I am on the technical side of things..think large scale systems.
Lol I design the IT infrastructure for large scale buildings, rarely do I have to get very technical... I'm just glad i don't have to do the programming for any of it.
I work with large scale clusters so I tend to end up working for R&D or Engineering of very large companies...I kind of fell into it right after college.
DMSO works well but smells like ass... but like you said only so much gets through even with that. Its just one of those things where there is a limit to how useful a transdermal can be. It would probably good enough at 200mg a day in DMSO to take care of the sides from a 19nor but it wont be adding any extra size.
One of the guys on anti-aging got to mid 1000's on a simple 4 pumps of 1.62% androgel plus phlogel.....somehow I got to 2080 on 12 pumps of 1% plus transaderm with NO DMSO or phlogel at all....these are unhealthy #'s, but they fly in the face of the ineffective transdermal test opinions I see on here. Even 8 pumps of 1%, 2 were probably 100% DHT conversion btw, I got to 687 18-20 hours removed from application....not bad at all actually, probably was upwards of 800 most of the previous day.
I work for a company that builds tools (wafer gas deposition process tools) for Intel/Motoral suppliers - Novellus, KLA, ASM, etc.. I am in the fabrication divison and I work in the sheetmetal and tube frame weldment manufacturing processes. The division down the street integrates them.
My bro was involved in something similar actually for an internship... You mean the galium arsenide wafers right? Very interesting stuff right there.
If you have put in time implementing project's look into the PMP certification its well worth the cost and time to study.
Insurance is a funny damn thing..I used androgel for a few months and it cost me like $10 yet my cyp costs me 100 for a 10 week supply...
I usually tell guys to give clomid a try first also...but I do what I do for personal reasons, that I cant go into on a board the important thing is keeping that script current and bloods looking good..
This reminds me of the "back in the day" all you needed was a HS diploma and hard work to get a good job and be "middle class" (or above). not so currently ....a bachelors is becoming the new HS diploma nowadays! many jobs i look into that require a bachelors pay in the mid-30's.
True however there are a few technical certifications that will come damn close to a guarantee.
Yeah even a masters doesn't get you much extra consideration nowadays. that is sad because a bachelors and a masters require about 6 years of school if going full-time.....
I'm pretty sure the OP is referring to some of the transdermal AAS that is now being produced by some UG labs. Stuff like Test, Tren, Boldenone, Nandrolone, etc. There are even trandermals like SD and Dbol.
Yeah, clomid is worth a shot. I know some guys that stay on clomid year round.
Yea we have a lot of old school guys who never spent a day in college at my place.... They are some of the smartest people here
It (transdermal delivery) can definitely work. Not everyone will respond the same. But then again, not everyone responds identically to 200 mg of test/cyp or 30 mg of dbol.
4-8 pumps makes this quite expensive. I'm using the generic version, but still. At that dose your E2 will probably sky rocket without a good AI. I will probably stack with Tren of LGD.
I usually take the lead in any class i take now....and i expect nothing less than an A. it's sort of an obligation to lead if you are considerably older than the majority of your classmates, and if you can't get an A in your late 30's into your 40's you suck. that being said there are tons of 30 and 40 year olds at attending universities at the bachelors and masters level today. plus i get away with people assuming i am 28-35 ....so i can pretend to be "inbetween" young and "old" lolI started my continued education to use my brain again. It is also an opportunity to network. I desire to be able to have those better presentation, organization and comminication skills that can be developed on top of my extensive experience.
In a recent class I was in it was full of 20something year olds. After the student introductions, background and experiences, the instructor asked me if I would prefer to lead the class.
I did take a project management class but I'm not sure it is in my forte so to speak. I am very mechanical and hands on regarding manufacturing and processes.
