- 07-31-2013, 11:28 AM
- 07-31-2013, 11:33 AM
Originally Posted by Red Fox
- 07-31-2013, 11:35 AM
Originally Posted by Red Fox
07-31-2013, 11:37 AM
07-31-2013, 11:40 AM
I started my continued education to use my brain again. It is also an opportunity to network. I desire to be able to have those better presentation, organization and comminication skills that can be developed on top of my extensive experience.
In a recent class I was in it was full of 20something year olds. After the student introductions, background and experiences, the instructor asked me if I would prefer to lead the class.
I did take a project management class but I'm not sure it is in my forte so to speak. I am very mechanical and hands on regarding manufacturing and processes.
07-31-2013, 11:45 AM
It (transdermal delivery) can definitely work. Not everyone will respond the same. But then again, not everyone responds identically to 200 mg of test/cyp or 30 mg of dbol.Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic
The efficiency/absorption depends greatly on the carrier/transporting agent. Different carriers may be used and they won't always tell you everything regarding proprietary ingredients. This can literally be the determining factor as to whether 10% or 80% absorption is achieved.
Also, rotating fresh application site plays a role. Also matters how these sites are cleaned or prepared.
So it's inaccurate to generalize and say "transdermals will always work great" or to say "transdermals are always inefficient"
07-31-2013, 11:46 AM
07-31-2013, 11:51 AM
07-31-2013, 11:55 AM
07-31-2013, 11:56 AM
I'm am not talking about andro gel.... I'm talking about ven. Om
07-31-2013, 12:00 PM
07-31-2013, 12:04 PM
I think there's is about 50 mg per ml, right?Originally Posted by gymrat727
How many mg per ml in androgel?
07-31-2013, 12:06 PM
The heck is transdermal ven?
07-31-2013, 12:20 PM
Lol, speaking in anabolic codeOriginally Posted by Red Fox
07-31-2013, 12:46 PM
07-31-2013, 01:09 PM
Yeah 50mg per ml I'm not sure about andro gel there was a thread somewhere that a man was using andro gel and had say a base line of 600 he then started using andro gel right after applying a moisturizer lotion his wife bought and his numbers shot to 1400. We are talking andro gel doing this imagine if he was using something else. And ven. Is slang lol I'm sure you heard of the name before ill give you a hint has to do with GATORS
07-31-2013, 01:25 PM
I think he was applying the lotion after. Seems like applying lotion before would hinder absorption.Originally Posted by gymrat727
As you probably know, the UG Trans that your referring to started as a gel and then they changed it to a lotion as they were experiencing higher absorption rates.
07-31-2013, 01:32 PM
07-31-2013, 03:50 PM
I feel left out of the loop im not a engineer nor do I work in that field. Im in the health field.
07-31-2013, 04:03 PM
07-31-2013, 04:09 PM
Gator venOriginally Posted by gymrat727
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07-31-2013, 04:17 PM
From what I've read bloods can very significanlty depending on when the testing is done. Test levels peak about two hours after administration and level off after 4 hours or so. Moreover, if blood is drawn from the area of application, test levels will be abnormally high. It's best to apply AndroGel first thing in the morning and take bloods late in the day for steady state test levels. Applying a moisturizer will help absorption but to a large extend. Maybe a 3%-5% increase. After a shower is the best time for application.
07-31-2013, 04:45 PM
07-31-2013, 04:46 PM
07-31-2013, 05:17 PM
Damn, talk about a hijack.
Maybe y'all should start an engineering thread.
07-31-2013, 05:38 PM
08-01-2013, 09:20 AM
Transdermal is a very viable form of delivery for hormones that have poor oral bioavailability. Transdermals have been used for years with great success. Granted, you need to use more hormone due to dismal absorption rates but the cost of non-estered base hormones is usually much less than estered counterparts and offsets any issue.
Do not use alcohol based carriers. Do not applly alcohol to areas. Alcohol only servesd to dry area which will in turn decrease absorption. Apply in areas that have ample blood flow...inside forearms, clavicle, calves, inner thigh.
I haven't been on forum in a while but I have played with transdermals and had excellent results.
40-day Transdermal Test/Oral Turinabol Cycle
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08-01-2013, 11:00 AM
08-01-2013, 11:11 AM
08-14-2013, 01:27 PM
yeah btw MuscleJ gave me a source and i never got anything. people be warned. his inbox is full so i thought i'd share with everybody.
08-17-2013, 02:32 PM
Looks like I may be joining the TRT/Androgel club. Just rec'd a script. It sounds as if I should ask about going the compound pharmacy route. I would appreciate any suggestions or recommendations - please PM me - I feel a bit lost (and honestly, sort of let down).
08-18-2013, 05:09 PM
I increased my Ven TD test dose from 1ml morning and night to 2ml morning and night a week ago and now feels like low dose inj test.
08-18-2013, 05:28 PM
So what's all your guys opinions on transdermal? My source wants to sell me them. I think it's the same guy mentioned earlier
08-18-2013, 08:13 PM
Ive been running transdermal test base 100mg/ml at 1ml am and 1ml pwo for the last two weeks and im loving it. Elevated mood through out the day as well as having energy all day long. Libido is through the roof. Havent weighed in since starting but the mirror is showing gains. Ive also started trans trest at 100mg/ml pwo and the pumps are insane. Feels like im going to tear outa my skin. Im applying these amounts assuming im getting about 50% absorbtion based on the effects im feeling. This is all based on the past two weeks so others may have different effects. Hope this helps some.
08-19-2013, 01:25 PM
can someone pm me about gator ven, just need to confirm something
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