Test with everything in it?

[12brother2]

Ok.. So my cousin got is hands on some test, but it has like everything in it.
T-decanate:200mg
T-iscaproate:30mg
T-phenylpropionate:40mg
T-propionate:30mg
T-cypionate:50mg
T-enthate:50mg

So what exactly is this? I've never heard of it before. And how exactly would something like this be ran? Thanks guys

 

[macdady]

Lol I'd call that the kitchen sink

 

[Vinnyboombots]

Ok.. So my cousin got is hands on some test, but it has like everything in it.
T-decanate:200mg
T-iscaproate:30mg
T-phenylpropionate:40mg
T-propionate:30mg
T-cypionate:50mg
T-enthate:50mg

So what exactly is this? I've never heard of it before. And how exactly would something like this be ran? Thanks guys

You take one injection, it comes on quickly and lasts for a year! ! Lol

 

[12brother2]

Lol, so not worth anything?

 

[Vinnyboombots]

Lol, so not worth anything?

I didn't say that at all. It just seems like a more complicated version of Sustanon. Lol

 

[Vinnyboombots]

Quick short acting testosterone esters mixed with some long acting.

 

[12brother2]

How would you run it vinny?

 

[Lukef2000]

Sounds like a silly mix to me. I you take into account ester weight there's not much test in that mix.

 

[Vinnyboombots]

Sounds like a silly mix to me. I you take into account ester weight there's not much test in that mix.

It's 400 mgs per ml that dosen't seem like not too much test to me.

 

[Lukef2000]

It's 400 mgs per ml that dosen't seem like not too much test to me.

If you read what I said, with so many different esters the 400mg of test would only be around 200mg o test as a lot of the 400mg is actually ester weight.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

sounds like sustanon on steroids.

 

[stephenj37826]

If you read what I said, with so many different esters the 400mg of test would only be around 200mg o test as a lot of the 400mg is actually ester weight.

You haven't a clue. Enethate has a heavy ester and it's 72 mg test per 100 mg. The shorter esters like prop have over 80 mg for every 100 mg. That's at least 300 mg of unestered test. There's more test mg for mg in that mix than test enethate.

 

[macdady]

sounds like sustanon on steroids.

A steroid on steroids you say? Lol

 

[McCrew530]

How would you run it vinny?

You have a math probelm on your hand my friend I have never ran a mix like that but you need to find the half life of each compound and go from there.

 

[Vinnyboombots]

You have a math probelm on your hand my friend I have never ran a mix like that but you need to find the half life of each compound and go from there.

Why not just run it like as if it were Sustanon, that's what I would do.

 

[McCrew530]

Why not just run it like as if it were Sustanon, that's what I would do.

He could do that to. I would just want to know how much of each substance is in my body at any given time and how long each is going to last. That way if something went wrong you can properly plan an effective pct.

 

[macdady]

You haven't a clue. Enethate has a heavy ester and it's 72 mg test per 100 mg. The shorter esters like prop have over 80 mg for every 100 mg. That's at least 300 mg of unestered test. There's more test mg for mg in that mix than test enethate.

Yeah if there was 100mgs of each ester lol. You got 50 50 30 30 40 and 200. Which is a total of 400... I don't see over 300 of actual test here

 

[McCrew530]

on a side note I have wanted to run SUS for a while now.

 

[jiggero]

If you read what I said, with so many different esters the 400mg of test would only be around 200mg o test as a lot of the 400mg is actually ester weight.

Looks like you need to do a little more studying on your anabolic steroids before posting more b.s. Lol

 

[AnabolicHolic]

on a side note I have wanted to run SUS for a while now.

I would not be too hyped to run sust, I say run prop ED/EOD, or run cyp/enanthate twice a week....these mixes don't make sense to me, although I've used sust and omnadren before in the distant past. Choose an ester and protocol that suites your cycle and its length and run with it, don't combine short, medium, long esters in one product.

 

[Vinnyboombots]

I would not be too hyped to run sust, I say run prop ED/EOD, or run cyp/enanthate twice a week....these mixes don't make sense to me, although I've used sust and omnadren before in the distant past. Choose an ester and protocol that suites your cycle and its length and run with it, don't combine short, medium, long esters in one product.

Sustanon works pretty well, I used to simply inject once weekly.

 

[McCrew530]

I would not be too hyped to run sust, I say run prop ED/EOD, or run cyp/enanthate twice a week....these mixes don't make sense to me, although I've used sust and omnadren before in the distant past. Choose an ester and protocol that suites your cycle and its length and run with it, don't combine short, medium, long esters in one product.

No better testament than from some one who has used it. I have only used long esters in the past and thought it noval to combine short med and long in the same mix

 

[Vinnyboombots]

For me it worked pretty similar to a cycle of testosterone cypionate. With weekly injections you can hardly tell the difference. It kicked in a little faster but after a few weeks it's pretty much the same.

 

[McCrew530]

For me it worked pretty similar to a cycle of testosterone cypionate. With weekly injections you can hardly tell the difference. It kicked in a little faster but after a few weeks it's pretty much the same.

I prefer cyp as it is.

 

[jiggero]

For me it worked pretty similar to a cycle of testosterone cypionate. With weekly injections you can hardly tell the difference. It kicked in a little faster but after a few weeks it's pretty much the same.

I totally agree. After everything kicks in test is just test.

 

[Vinnyboombots]

I prefer cyp as it is.

I'm also enjoying cypionate myself. Unfortunately these days the dosage is only 120mgs a week. lol

 

[Lukef2000]

Looks like you need to do a little more studying on your anabolic steroids before posting more b.s. Lol

I know exactly what I'm talking about. Every blend of test is ester heavy. Not to mention hard to control stable blood levels due to varying degrees of absorption.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

I totally agree. After everything kicks in test is just test.

Right.......so why buy a conglomeration of test esters instead of "just test"? to me just test is plain ol' cyp or enanthate to be honest. sort of makes no sense since it ends up working just as well/just the same as "regular test".

 

[jiggero]

the 400mg of test would only be around 200mg

Wrong answer

 

[Lukef2000]

Wrong answer

I wasn't being precise, was simply stating that with a blend 400mg isn't actually anywhere near 400mg.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

I'm also enjoying cypionate myself. Unfortunately these days the dosage is only 120mgs a week. lol

I am using 12 pumps of 1% androgel per day with 5 pumps of transaderm (DHEA and Preg).....and my test level was 2080 (yes 2 thousand and 80 lol). I felt like 12 pumps was about equivalent to 120mg of injectable, using a rather random 10 multiplier. I got re-tested yesterday for a "second opinion" and make sure the sample wasn't contaminated by androgel on my skin.....

 

[jiggero]

Right.......so why buy a conglomeration of test esters instead of "just test"? to me just test is plain ol' cyp or enanthate to be honest. sort of makes no sense since it ends up working just as well/just the same as "regular test".

Yes but alot of people are too impatient and don't want to wait for 3-4 weeks for the testosterone to kick in, but also don't want the hassle of eod pinning. Walla Sustanon the best of both worlds quick action with only weekly injections.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

Yes but alot of people are too impatient and don't want to wait for 3-4 weeks for the testosterone to kick in, but also don't want the hassle of eod pinning. Walla Sustanon the best of both worlds quick action with only weekly injections.

I would simply kickstart with prop for say 4 weeks while concurrently running a long ester.....then of course drop the prop and continue with the long ester, a much better method for the impatient out there. Then again, SD or dbol work WAY better as a kickstart for the dead time at the start of a test cycle. test blends are just plain dumb to me, but hey if you use them properly (say EOD) then I guess its harmless enough.....just seems like a inefficient way to utilize test to me though.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

Sustanon the best of both worlds quick action with only weekly injections.

wait, you advocate pinning sust ONCE per week??????

 

[jiggero]

I would simply kickstart with prop for say 4 weeks while concurrently running a long ester.....then of course drop the prop and continue with the long ester, a much better method for the impatient out there. Then again, SD or dbol work WAY better as a kickstart for the dead time at the start of a test cycle. test blends are just plain dumb to me, but hey if you use them properly (say EOD) then I guess its harmless enough.....just seems like a inefficient way to utilize test to me though.

Some people like to keep it simple. Ok now your turn to argue my point. lol

 

[jiggero]

wait, you advocate pinning sust ONCE per week??????

Why would you need to pin Sustanon more than once per week? ? It was designed so that you wouldn't have to deal with frequently pinning. What are you talking about? ?

 

[AnabolicHolic]

Why would you need to pin Sustanon more than once per week? ? It was designed so that you wouldn't have to deal with frequently pinning. What are you talking about? ?

Wow, OK. If you say so

 

[macdady]

Why would you need to pin Sustanon more than once per week? ? It was designed so that you wouldn't have to deal with frequently pinning. What are you talking about? ?

Your gonna have to explain that train of thought lol

 

[Vinnyboombots]

wait, you advocate pinning sust ONCE per week??????

Hey that's how I used to do it!! And I grew as big as a house!!

 

[jiggero]

Your gonna have to explain that train of thought lol

It was designed back in the day to give you a long steady flow of testosterone. It was designed to stay in your system for 2 weeks.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.

 

[jiggero]

Obviously the propionate gets in the system quickly but the testosterone decanoate lasts quite awhile.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

Why are the short esters included, since they require EOD injecting to fully utilize the half-life? The whole point of including them is to inject it several times per week....not once. You would just use cyp or enanthate for that matter....why incorporate once per week prop? makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[jiggero]

Why are the short esters included, since they require EOD injecting to fully utilize the half-life? The whole point of including them is to inject it several times per week....not once. You would just use cyp or enanthate for that matter....why incorporate once per week prop? makes no sense whatsoever.

It was meant to be lnjected every 2 weeks. The propionate was for the quick onset and the rest would kick in over the next 2 weeks keeping your testosterone levels steady without the roller coaster effect of ups and downs and 2 weeks later when it was starting to wear off you would inject again.

 

[jiggero]

But I liked injecting it weekly and it worked great.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

My head is about to explode. I need to take a few minutes and go do something else............

 

[jiggero]

No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.

Testosterone decanoate was never intended to be injected every other day that shi t stays in your system a long time

 

[jiggero]

No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.

Testosterone decanoate was never intended to be injected every other day that shi t stays in your system a long time

 

[Vinnyboombots]

No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.

No sustanon was designed to be a long lasting testosterone.

 

[jiggero]

My head is about to explode. I need to take a few minutes and go do something else............

Yea you go do that. I. Wouldn't want your head to explode, because it's so full of knowledge.