Test with everything in it?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Vinnyboombots View Post
    I'm also enjoying cypionate myself. Unfortunately these days the dosage is only 120mgs a week. lol
    I am using 12 pumps of 1% androgel per day with 5 pumps of transaderm (DHEA and Preg).....and my test level was 2080 (yes 2 thousand and 80 lol). I felt like 12 pumps was about equivalent to 120mg of injectable, using a rather random 10 multiplier. I got re-tested yesterday for a "second opinion" and make sure the sample wasn't contaminated by androgel on my skin.....


  2. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    Right.......so why buy a conglomeration of test esters instead of "just test"? to me just test is plain ol' cyp or enanthate to be honest. sort of makes no sense since it ends up working just as well/just the same as "regular test".
    Yes but alot of people are too impatient and don't want to wait for 3-4 weeks for the testosterone to kick in, but also don't want the hassle of eod pinning. Walla Sustanon the best of both worlds quick action with only weekly injections.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Yes but alot of people are too impatient and don't want to wait for 3-4 weeks for the testosterone to kick in, but also don't want the hassle of eod pinning. Walla Sustanon the best of both worlds quick action with only weekly injections.
    I would simply kickstart with prop for say 4 weeks while concurrently running a long ester.....then of course drop the prop and continue with the long ester, a much better method for the impatient out there. Then again, SD or dbol work WAY better as a kickstart for the dead time at the start of a test cycle. test blends are just plain dumb to me, but hey if you use them properly (say EOD) then I guess its harmless enough.....just seems like a inefficient way to utilize test to me though.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Sustanon the best of both worlds quick action with only weekly injections.
    wait, you advocate pinning sust ONCE per week??????

  5. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    I would simply kickstart with prop for say 4 weeks while concurrently running a long ester.....then of course drop the prop and continue with the long ester, a much better method for the impatient out there. Then again, SD or dbol work WAY better as a kickstart for the dead time at the start of a test cycle. test blends are just plain dumb to me, but hey if you use them properly (say EOD) then I guess its harmless enough.....just seems like a inefficient way to utilize test to me though.
    Some people like to keep it simple. Ok now your turn to argue my point. lol
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    wait, you advocate pinning sust ONCE per week??????
    Why would you need to pin Sustanon more than once per week? ? It was designed so that you wouldn't have to deal with frequently pinning. What are you talking about? ?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Why would you need to pin Sustanon more than once per week? ? It was designed so that you wouldn't have to deal with frequently pinning. What are you talking about? ?
    Wow, OK. If you say so

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Why would you need to pin Sustanon more than once per week? ? It was designed so that you wouldn't have to deal with frequently pinning. What are you talking about? ?
    Your gonna have to explain that train of thought lol
    Why not zoidberg?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post

    wait, you advocate pinning sust ONCE per week??????
    Hey that's how I used to do it!! And I grew as big as a house!!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by macdady View Post
    Your gonna have to explain that train of thought lol
    It was designed back in the day to give you a long steady flow of testosterone. It was designed to stay in your system for 2 weeks.

  11. No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.

  12. Obviously the propionate gets in the system quickly but the testosterone decanoate lasts quite awhile.

  13. Why are the short esters included, since they require EOD injecting to fully utilize the half-life? The whole point of including them is to inject it several times per week....not once. You would just use cyp or enanthate for that matter....why incorporate once per week prop? makes no sense whatsoever.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    Why are the short esters included, since they require EOD injecting to fully utilize the half-life? The whole point of including them is to inject it several times per week....not once. You would just use cyp or enanthate for that matter....why incorporate once per week prop? makes no sense whatsoever.
    It was meant to be lnjected every 2 weeks. The propionate was for the quick onset and the rest would kick in over the next 2 weeks keeping your testosterone levels steady without the roller coaster effect of ups and downs and 2 weeks later when it was starting to wear off you would inject again.

  15. But I liked injecting it weekly and it worked great.

  16. My head is about to explode. I need to take a few minutes and go do something else............

  17. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.
    Testosterone decanoate was never intended to be injected every other day that shi t stays in your system a long time

  18. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.
    Testosterone decanoate was never intended to be injected every other day that shi t stays in your system a long time

  19. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.
    No sustanon was designed to be a long lasting testosterone.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    My head is about to explode. I need to take a few minutes and go do something else............
    Yea you go do that. I. Wouldn't want your head to explode, because it's so full of knowledge.

  21. Read the Sustanon 250 profile on Steroidology .com it states that it's designed so the testosterone propionate kicks in within 4 days with the remaining testosterone esters staying active in your system for up to 2-3 weeks.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    No. absolutely not. Sust was designed to be injected EOD or MWF or at the very least M/TH, that is listed from ideal- to adequate- to less than ideal, in that order. Period.
    Whichever way is the more effective way to inject Sustanon is one thing. But saying it was designed to be injected EOD is completely wrong. Sustanon 250 was designed to be a trt/hrt drug that I believe was supposed to be injected once a month which supposedly gave you a long steady flow of testosterone. Again whether it actually lasted that long in the system is debatable. But saying it was designed to be injected frequently is wrong.
    You are probably too young to know these things.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Whichever way is the more effective way to inject Sustanon is one thing. But saying it was designed to be injected EOD is completely wrong. Sustanon 250 was designed to be a trt/hrt drug that I believe was supposed to be injected once a month which supposedly gave you a long steady flow of testosterone. Again whether it actually lasted that long in the system is debatable. But saying it was designed to be injected frequently is wrong.
    You are probably too young to know these things.
    The third stooge has arrived! LOL! I believe you three are the same person......matter of fact I am certain of it. Do you three follow me around on purpose, and intentionally spread this misinformation? Or is it totally by chance? Hey, Wallow in your ignorance....I do not care! and I'll take that bet, loser leaves the board....loser = younger person. I believe strongly I will win this one....same as I win the sust debate....

  24. Wow this heated up pretty fast... So do you think injecting this twice weekly would be good? It's his first cycle but he's been working out for 6 years. His stats are 6ft 215 probably 10-12% bf. I'm just not sure how much he should run. I've only done testE

  25. Quote Originally Posted by 12brother2 View Post
    Wow this heated up pretty fast... So do you think injecting this twice weekly would be good? It's his first cycle but he's been working out for 6 years. His stats are 6ft 215 probably 10-12% bf. I'm just not sure how much he should run. I've only done testE
    Once per month! you saw what the geniuses posted right? Not sure why you even need to ask follow-ups? Hell, maybe tell him to follow the once every two months protocol, since he is a newbie and all

  26. Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicHolic View Post
    The third stooge has arrived! LOL! I believe you three are the same person......matter of fact I am certain of it. Do you three follow me around on purpose, and intentionally spread this misinformation? Or is it totally by chance? Hey, Wallow in your ignorance....I do not care! and I'll take that bet, loser leaves the board....loser = younger person. I believe strongly I will win this one....same as I win the sust debate....
    Hey man nothing against you personally. I'm just saying what is was created for was a convenient way to inject your trt dose... not bodybuilding or powerliftng dose. Just look it up and you'll see.

  27. I personally would probably inject it 2x a week if I was to run a cycle of it. But that's not my point.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Hey man nothing against you personally. I'm just saying what is was created for was a convenient way to inject your trt dose... not bodybuilding or powerliftng dose. Just look it up and you'll see.
    NO trt dose should be "once per month" or "once per two months".....there is no ester that has any sort of month or multi-week half-life. Viagra was created for cardiomyopathy patients, and now its a hard-on drug. Whatever the people who dreamed sust up intended it for? is certainly NOT the proper way to actually USE it for bodybuilding purposes (or trt for that matter). I can see twice per week dosing, M/TH, but this nonsense about once per week is straight BS. Even Cyp and enanthate should be injected twice per week to control E2 (for Trt'ers at least). But sust somehow can be injected once per week, makes no sense. Why bother then? as I said hours ago just go buy some cyp and inject it once per week....you are not utilizing the sust for what its best used for, multiple dosing weekly.

  29. Again like I said I didn't say it worked out that way but that was what was intended when they designed Sustanon 250 with the 4 different esters, an extended release trt injection. What is so hard to believe about that I mean they created the pellets for convenience right.

  30. I think you keep missing my point. Whether or not that method of injections suck or not is irrelevant.
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