Good to Go.... Or No Go.

  1. Good to Go.... Or No Go.


    Looking to put on mass and strength. Been researching for a month or so on different cycles.

    Stats... 25yro, 6ft, 250lbs. This will be first ph cycle.

    Decided to go with "Super Dmz 2.0 (sdmz)" at two caps and im going to add in one cap of Lgi Dmz-15 per day. This will make a daily dosing of 20mg Msten/35mg DMZ. Also going to run IML 4-Andro to combat lethargy at 4 caps/200mg per day.

    Week 1-2 Preload 2 caps per day of Advanced Cycle Support (ACS)

    Weeks 3-6... Cycle

    SDMZ: 2 caps a day (2/2/2/2)
    LGI DMZ-15: 1 cap per day (1/1/1/1)
    4-Andro: 4 caps per day (4/4/4/4)

    ACS: 2 caps a day (2/2/2/2)
    Tudca: 2 caps/500mg a day: (2/2/2/2)

    Weeks 7-12... Pct

    Nolva: (20/20/10/10)
    E-Control: start at 3 caps (0/0/3/3/2/1)
    PrimaForce DAA: 3gr a day (3/3/3/3)
    ACS: (2/2/0/0)

    Also will be taking fish oil, multi vitamin, and potassium for entire length of cycle/pct. Ill have tuarine on stay by for back pumps. i will not start cycle till i have all supps, serm, and taurine on hand

    Also, i wont be running this until atleast november. So ill still be researching until then. This is just what ive gathered so far.

    Thx guys.


  2. Looks like a good short cycle.
    You might want a test booster for after pct though too. To kind of bridge you to your next cycle.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Looks like a good short cycle.
    You might want a test booster for after pct though too. To kind of bridge you to your next cycle.
    Agreed. Like ABE and Erase between cycle.
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  4. Thx..... Bump for more opinions

  5. Would not recommend superdmz 2.0 for a first cycle. That's just my opinion though

  6. Sdmz is not usually used as a first cycle but if you are you need to preload "acs" for two weeks prior to cycle and get "tudca" (example "aegis" from AL) for on cycle. Sdmz is very liver toxic and milk thistle is not enough. Use both acs and tudca

    I'd recommend starting with a run of epi to first see how your body handles DS/PH and then sdmz cycle number 2 or 3.

  7. Oh I forgot something. Back pumps are very common with sdmz and can be extremely painful. Get some taurine from now foods which works perfect. I'm running sdmz right now and I dose taurine 2g 3times a day.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    Sdmz is not usually used as a first cycle but if you are you need to preload "acs" for two weeks prior to cycle and get "tudca" (example "aegis" from AL) for on cycle. Sdmz is very liver toxic and milk thistle is not enough. Use both acs and tudca

    I'd recommend starting with a run of epi to first see how your body handles DS/PH and then sdmz cycle number 2 or 3.
    I was looking into "tudca" last night. Funny that you mention it. Thx

  9. Should one run "tudca" on cycle only, or all the way through pct also?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by PhatBoy07 View Post
    Should one run "tudca" on cycle only, or all the way through pct also?
    It wouldnt hurt but this is how I do it

    Cycle assist preloaded 2 weeks before cycle and throughout cycle.
    Aegis(tudca) also during cycle.
    I use Talos(AL product) rather than cycle assist during PCT. It Is also a liver, blood pressure, etc support but it doesn't contain milk thistle.

    I don't use cycle assist during pct based on a research paper I read a year or two ago. It lead me to believe that milk thistle could alter the effectiveness of a serm. That being said it was based on different doses, purpose, etc but it was enough for me.

  11. Write up a revised cycle or edit your first post so I can see what it looks like now with the updates

  12. Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    Write up a revised cycle or edit your first post so I can see what it looks like now with the updates
    Edited my original post.... Hows it look?

  13. I would use lgi damage control

  14. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    I would use lgi damage control
    I used it during my recent mecha cycle and 2 weeks after and i felt great it was definitely a difference maker.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post

    i've read the studies about milk thistle and the androgen receptor, but not altering the effectiveness of a serm. i dont guess you have a link do you? i was considering running it during week one of pct when androgen levels are low anyway but i dont want to if it will affect the serm's effectiveness.
    Wow I read it a while back. It was a link I got from a thread I was reading on the subject. I'll search for it tonight.

  16. I don't know if most people realize this but tudca should be run at 1 gram

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    I don't know if most people realize this but tudca should be run at 1 gram
    Most rec 500mg.....some say 1000mg, ehhhhhh

  18. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    I don't know if most people realize this but tudca should be run at 1 gram
    Hmm 1 gram? I use aegis from AL, pills have 85mg of tudca each and the daily dose is 6 caps.

  19. Bump.... Hows my revised cycle look? Would it be wise to run tudca during pct also? Thx for the help guys.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by PhatBoy07 View Post
    Bump.... Hows my revised cycle look? Would it be wise to run tudca during pct also? Thx for the help guys.
    Yes tudca during pct is fine, that'd b good for your body. Your cycle is gtg bro, I'd add something for cortisol during pct like reduce xt but other than that it looks great.

  21. I used tudca during my cycle and first week of pct, it did seem to help bring my appetite back much quicker then not using it
  

  
 

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