Advice on msten/dmz cycle

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    First time bulking with PHs- usually use them to cut

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    Clomid 100/50/50/25 pharma grade
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    Question is about lethargy
    Thoughts on trest/ MENT/ 4dhea for lethargy and how I would dose and if that would require the pharma scenes take I have acquired.

    My hair thinned out but grew back with Epi @40mg x 6wks but grew back... If my hair decides to completely die out... No ****s given

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    I would run super dmz, with a test base. That's 20 mg dmz and 20 mg m sten. take a took
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    For lethargy add a stano clone to the cycle 600-800mg per day. If I'm not mistaken it will also help those prone to hair lost.

    I have added stano to every cycle I've ever ran including sdmz(dmz + m-sten) which I'm running now. IMO it is pointless solo but is great stacked. Over 800mg makes my joints unhappy FYI
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlumpkinKing View Post
    I would run super dmz, with a test base. That's 20 mg dmz and 20 mg m sten. take a took
    derp that's the exact same thing i'm running but I get to control my own dosages -- I don't want to be stuck doing 10/10, 20/20, 30/30...

    If I was running test I'd be doing a completely different cycle, I'm not ready for IM test quite yet.

    Sorry for coming off rude, but you're red, and on most forums that means insta-troll to me lol..

    Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    For lethargy add a stano clone to the cycle 600-800mg per day. If I'm not mistaken it will also help those prone to hair lost.

    I have added stano to every cycle I've ever ran including sdmz(dmz + m-sten) which I'm running now. IMO it is pointless solo but is great stacked. Over 800mg makes my joints unhappy FYI
    Sounds perty good, dosed pre-wo or with the PH?
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    Forget stano and get Trestabolan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No_Pain View Post



    Sounds perty good, dosed pre-wo or with the PH?
    I take 400mg morning and 400mg pre-workout.
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    First off , before you call me a troll, you don't need to always "pin" test bases. If you know what that means. Read a book.Look into androhard oral test base, and super dmz together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    For lethargy add a stano clone to the cycle 600-800mg per day. If I'm not mistaken it will also help those prone to hair loss
    Your mistaken.

    If your prone to hair loss, it's going to increase the chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No_Pain View Post



    Sorry for coming off rude, but you're red, and on most forums that means insta-troll to me lol..
    Oh really???? Troll much????

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    Lol whatever I ain't even mad; lol now I'm red because you misunderstood what I said, got butt hurt, and are now throwing your dick around... sweet. AM rocks.

    Regardless

    Only thing that's been bugging about trest is the gyno flare-ups people have been getting... But still mad worth it

    30-40mg pre-wo
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    Im not mad and didn't misunderstand. just thought it was funny. I might of been the one who put him red too, I cant remember. I don't really positive rep people very often. like, 1 out of every 50 might be positive. maybe less? there are some bb.com butt loving groupies that rep each other back an forth, but this im not one of them.
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    I know that feel, back on BB is where I'm actually 10k deep in the green, here not so much; but I'm not here for the groupie-love just here to find out how to dose my trest; or if I even need it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Your mistaken.

    If your prone to hair loss, it's going to increase the chances.
    Yes you are correct. I was defiantly wrong. Stano increases DHT which can cause hair loss in those prone to it. Thanks
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    There, now no ones trollin and all in the green.
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    awwwjyeeee

    Now, the question still stands

    Add trest to this basically SDMZ cycle... or fight through the lethargy...

    I did use ment at 20mg prewo for my epi/tvar cycle... but idk

    Can do 20-30mg trest prewo and do pharma exemestane 12.5mg e3d or something, I am most definitely sensitive and get some poofiness
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    Trest at 30 mg pwo is awesome. I still had to take 10 to 20 more 2 more times during the day to kill the lethargy. It iscrhe only thing that worked. I think the hole gyno hype with rest is way over blown. Take 2 erase ed just to be safe.
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    So I got a bottle of trest shiz is expensive so ill bring it on week 2 or 3 and dose 20-30 to make it last... Probably most expensive part of this cycle lol
  

  
 

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