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    Are Steroids close to being socially accepted?


    With all these male enhancement commercials and bodybuilding growing in popularity does anyone think there will be a day when steroids and those who use them won't be schooled at by those who don't understand?

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    Nope lol
    Why not zoidberg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zac Speed View Post
    With all these male enhancement commercials and bodybuilding growing in popularity does anyone think there will be a day when steroids and those who use them won't be schooled at by those who don't understand?
    I accept them socially.
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    Well considering we are on an anabolics forum I'd say we all accept them..lol
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    Negative. I doubt the stigma and negativity associated with PEDs will ever go away.
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    I kind of see the trend heading that way. Kind of the same as Marijuana has over the last ten twenty years.

    There's enough info out there that isn't jaded by the Lamestream media's hate for them that it is allowing more intelligent open minded people to decide for themselves.
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    I wish but the media will never let it happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zac Speed View Post
    With all these male enhancement commercials and bodybuilding growing in popularity does anyone think there will be a day when steroids and those who use them won't be schooled at by those who don't understand?
    As long as there are idiots who jump into anabolics without having any clue how to do it safely, and football players who claim that they were using Adderall when they fail a drug test (the collective bargaining agreement does not allow disclosure of which drug they tested positive for, so lots of players say Adderall), even though they were very likely using anabolics, the public is going to assume that anyone using anabolics is cheating.

    What has made a lot of things become more mainstream is the sense of "everybody's doing it." With the stigma that only cheaters do it, it's going to be tough to create that mindset.
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    The answer is NO. Not even a little bit.
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    I can understand the stigma of being a cheater in all sports besides bodybuilding. Anyone who's knows anything about the stuff knows that you don't just take it and become the hulk...
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    Also was talking to my step dad yesterday about it. I've let my parents know they've become a part of my life and will continue to be in my pursuit of success in the world of bodybuilding.

    My dad surprised me because he told me he had done some research about them and read that they don't make everybody roid rage. More like intensify your personality. And I knew that but was just glad to hear him with some real knowledge about a highly misconceived theory of them.
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    The media jumps all over athletes for PEDs but I didn't hear anyone complaining when AP rushed for 2100 yards lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swetz View Post
    The media jumps all over athletes for PEDs but I didn't hear anyone complaining when AP rushed for 2100 yards lol
    Boom!
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    Media is full of hypocrisy and lies. I stay away from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swetz View Post
    The media jumps all over athletes for PEDs but I didn't hear anyone complaining when AP rushed for 2100 yards lol
    The media turns a (willfully or otherwise) blind eye to football PED use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srblan View Post

    The media turns a (willfully or otherwise) blind eye to football PED use.
    Whaaaat? You mean they use more than deer antler spray??
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    Whaaaat? You mean they use more than deer antler spray??
    lol, I've had one of my guys ask about that.. smh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zac Speed View Post

    lol, I've had one of my guys ask about that.. smh
    Friggin funny stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    Whaaaat? You mean they use more than deer antler spray??
    Lol, yes. They also use creatine.
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    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by srblan View Post

    Lol, yes. They also use creatine.
    I thought that was banned???
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    Quote Originally Posted by cswalczakny View Post

    I thought that was banned???
    You're thinking of dat dere celltech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srblan View Post

    You're thinking of dat dere celltech.
    Wow. Do they let them use whey protein and rolled oats too?
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    Like the movie says, "If you're dumb enough to think all I'm taking is muscle tech, then that's your fault." Not socially accepted IMO.
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    i think MAYBE in 2 generations time... for example in my life, most of the people around my grandparents age are 100% against it...

    the middle aged people in my life (parents, uncles, older friends, etc) are split but still more on the side of "not understanding" or "not approving"

    however, most of my friends between the age of 20-30 say they may not want to use them or may not understand their use, but agree that if the "drug" is not hurting others and is not being used for financial gain or competitive advantage (ie in pro sports) then why should someone not be allowed to use them
    a similar argument to the already mentioned "marijuana" debate

    there will always be people on both sides of the spectrum, but i think they will become MORE socially accepted, i do not think there will ever be a majority that socially accepts them though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zac Speed View Post
    I can understand the stigma of being a cheater in all sports besides bodybuilding. Anyone who's knows anything about the stuff knows that you don't just take it and become the hulk...
    Why is it cheating in other sports? Athletes use every advantage they can get: Cutting-edge equipment, training programs, and nutritional regimens; leading-edge strength and conditioning coaches, hitting coaches, etc.; and even comprehensive supplement plans. Why is this particular advantage cheating while others are not? And why is it okay in bodybuilding but not other sports? The bodybuilder on steroids has the same advantage over a natural bodybuilder as a baseball player on steroids has over one who isn't. In fact, I'd argue that steroids offer an even greater advantage in bodybuilding than other sports. And what about the other strength pursuits: powerlifting, Olympic lifting, strongman. Is it okay there, or is it cheating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris223 View Post

    Why is it cheating in other sports? Athletes use every advantage they can get: Cutting-edge equipment, training programs, and nutritional regimens; leading-edge strength and conditioning coaches, hitting coaches, etc.; and even comprehensive supplement plans. Why is this particular advantage cheating while others are not? And why is it okay in bodybuilding but not other sports? The bodybuilder on steroids has the same advantage over a natural bodybuilder as a baseball player on steroids has over one who isn't. In fact, I'd argue that steroids offer an even greater advantage in bodybuilding than other sports. And what about the other strength pursuits: powerlifting, Olympic lifting, strongman. Is it okay there, or is it cheating?
    well theres the part where steroids can and do make athletes stronger and faster than naturally possible. all those other advantages are still limited to genetics, steroids arnt
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post

    well theres the part where steroids can and do make athletes stronger and faster than naturally possible. all those other advantages are still limited to genetics, steroids arnt
    This.

    In non natural bodybuilding its use isn't glorified but it is overlooked.
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    Who was that Canadian Olympic sprinter that set the world record 100m that got caught? He came back a few years later and was slower. That was kind of the worlds acknowledgement to them making a person stronger and faster.

    And talk about socially unaccepted at the time but Canada also banned him..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zac Speed View Post
    Who was that Canadian Olympic sprinter that set the world record 100m that got caught? He came back a few years later and was slower. That was kind of the worlds acknowledgement to them making a person stronger and faster.

    And talk about socially unaccepted at the time but Canada also banned him..
    Ben Johnson. He's basically the reason steroids were made illegal in the US.
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    Part of the reason they won't be accepted is due to RAMPANT irresponsible (and oftentimes dangerous) use by impatient and inexperienced trainees.

    We can all read studies that show PEDs can and are used safely, but those are countered by the endless stream of jackassery that comes with novice steroid use. All one has to do is spend 10 minutes perusing the Anabolics section to see what I'm talking about.

    Additionally, you won't hear stories about successful use. Guys that get blood panels before/during/after, practice responsible use and quietly grow aren't who we hear from. We hear from the idiots who think TRT is a legal cycle, idiots whose endocrine system is irreparably incapacitated from banging a gram of test/week for 6 months, idiots who beat the shyt out of someone in a fit of rage and blame "the juice".

    The negative connotations are, at this point (IMHO), insurmountable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post

    the middle aged people in my life (parents, uncles, older friends, etc) are split but still more on the side of "not understanding" or "not approving"
    How old is you're father or your uncles because if they are in their 50's there's a chance that they might have even used steroids. They were pretty big in the 80's and 90's. They didn't become a controlled substance until 1991 if I remember correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnyboombots View Post

    How old is you're father or your uncles because if they are in their 50's there's a chance that they might have even used steroids. They were pretty big in the 80's and 90's. They didn't become a controlled substance until 1991 if I remember correctly.
    One uncle could have (stalky sicilian side of the family and was always strong) but father and my other uncles haven't or wouldn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    One uncle could have (stalky sicilian side of the family and was always strong) but father and my other uncles haven't or wouldn't
    That's what i mean. Now on the other hand unless your grandfather was in the olympics or something then i doubt he ever took steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanson52 View Post
    Part of the reason they won't be accepted is due to RAMPANT irresponsible (and oftentimes dangerous) use by impatient and inexperienced trainees.

    We can all read studies that show PEDs can and are used safely, but those are countered by the endless stream of jackassery that comes with novice steroid use. All one has to do is spend 10 minutes perusing the Anabolics section to see what I'm talking about.

    Additionally, you won't hear stories about successful use. Guys that get blood panels before/during/after, practice responsible use and quietly grow aren't who we hear from. We hear from the idiots who think TRT is a legal cycle, idiots whose endocrine system is irreparably incapacitated from banging a gram of test/week for 6 months, idiots who beat the shyt out of someone in a fit of rage and blame "the juice".

    The negative connotations are, at this point (IMHO), insurmountable.
    This is 100% truth. Especially with the news, they won't report on someone who uses steroids quietly and correctly, hell its the idiots who use synthol and end up with a blood clot and dying that get on the news. And synthol isn't even steroids -___- but of course people don't know the difference.

    Use them correctly, and we'd have 0 issues. However people are imperfect therefore we need rules and regulations. But I do agree they go too far with those.
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    The way I see it is. It is your body, your temple. No man has the right to dictate what you do with it. If you wanna run 150mg of tren a day so be it. When you go into a coma and **** don't blame the roids, blame yourself for being an idiot.

    That is your Liberty. Something that has been forgotten in this country of rules and regulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zac Speed View Post
    The way I see it is. It is your body, your temple. No man has the right to dictate what you do with it. If you wanna run 150mg of tren a day so be it. When you go into a coma and **** don't blame the roids, blame yourself for being an idiot.

    That is your Liberty. Something that has been forgotten in this country of rules and regulation.
    I could not have said it better.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by OnionKnight View Post

    well theres the part where steroids can and do make athletes stronger and faster than naturally possible. all those other advantages are still limited to genetics, steroids arnt
    A .240 hitter who goes on juice will still be a .240 hitter. A linebacker who can't tackle and goes on juice will run faster and hit harder, but he still can't tackle. Steroids won't help you catch the ball or shoot a jumper or pot a goal on a breakaway. And then there's still the question of why the OP considers usage of hormones to be justified in bodybuilding.
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