anavar first ever cycle
- 07-04-2013, 03:10 PM
anavar first ever cycle
After much deliberation and consideration I have decide to cycle anavar. However having never used this before or any other steroid or ph I have no idea where to get it. This isn't a request for contact's, it's a simple question; how did each of you find your respected source's.
thanks in advance
- 07-04-2013, 03:32 PM
- 07-04-2013, 03:44 PM
It seemed the least 'hash' which would be ideal fora first cycle I thought. I have the whole cycle planned plus pct is derived from months research. I just need to find the stuff
07-04-2013, 03:45 PM
07-04-2013, 04:53 PM
07-04-2013, 04:56 PM
Very informative and productive comment, you always get them somewhere.......
do you buy everything available and then choose?
07-04-2013, 05:24 PM
07-05-2013, 12:22 PM
07-05-2013, 12:57 PM
You're gonna waste your money and time with anavar. I've never seen a male gain anything even on 100mg a day. Maybe a little fat burn but nothing drastic.
Now my wife on 10mg a day at 44 and 6 kids loves it. And she looks better then most women in their 20's with no kids.
07-05-2013, 04:00 PM
Yeah, your doing the weakest anabolic on the market, gains are small but it can help for cutting, I would use it as a stack with some Clem or Win to see some gains
07-05-2013, 04:37 PM
07-05-2013, 04:49 PM
07-05-2013, 05:24 PM
07-05-2013, 05:29 PM
I wouldn't recommend running any cycle without some Arimidex and/or Nolvadex. Those should cancel out most chances of side effects. On top of how low a dose that is.
07-05-2013, 05:35 PM
07-05-2013, 05:39 PM
That may be a good call. I can say I've never ran test by itself. Always stacked with something. I said Test and Eq because that was my first cycle about ten years ago and up until this year was always my go to. They both compliment each other well. And I feel the muscle quality gained with Eq over DECA makes it my choice for a stack like that.
Now I've moved on to supertren, test and masteron.
07-05-2013, 06:07 PM
Macdady is right, you just have to keep searching through forums and googling until you figure out what sources are legit. It's kind of a pain but the info is out there you just gotta find it
07-28-2013, 01:06 PM
07-28-2013, 02:58 PM
07-28-2013, 04:13 PM
Anavar is not a waste of time by any means if your goal is to get very cut and gain a few lbs of lean muscle in a few short weeks.
I would go with Tbol myself, as it is a mix of the cut anavar gives and the size dbol gives.
07-30-2013, 09:49 PM
So lemme get this straight redfox. You think its good advice and not a waste of time and money to run anavar solo? And the OP should run tbol for his first run?
07-31-2013, 08:51 AM
Run Anavar solo? Well, testosterone causes water retention unless used at under 300mg a week (I've heard) and Anavar is strictly for cutting and gaining very few lbs of mass, so yeah I would use it solo by that logic.
Tbol I can speak from much more knowledge -- it is ran solo all the time, with the average reported gains between 8-12 (Up to 20-25) lbs with 70-80% or more retained due to it not being water weight. I would use a SARM at pretty low doses (to prevent possible shutdown which would counter point of PCT) along with the SERM for the PCT though to retain 90-100% of gains.
08-01-2013, 10:54 AM
Anavar can be run solo with positive results. Just don't expect too much as far as weight or strength gains. It'll decrease recovery time, increase workout endurance, increase ATP storage (stack or cap it with creatine), preserve and possibly increase muscle mass even while in calorie deficit.
It'll be expensive unless you can get bulk powder and cap yourself. Don't expect to do anything less than 50mg/day. Make sure your taking something for blood pressure e.g. Hawthorne, amp up slowly so you don't get headaches. Definitely do a 2day split because you'll get to work out body parts more frequently.
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for life. Lao Tse 6th century BC
08-01-2013, 02:46 PM
600mg Test of your choice ( Prop if you don't want as much water retention )
50mg Dbol ED
600mg of Test of your choic
PCT Nolva 40/40/20/20
Oral only especially Anavar is **** gains for the money your going to spend. I don't understand why so many people on this board are so scared of the needle. Your wanting to run gear to get the most out of your self so why run a half ass cycle for half ass results. Man up and get real results that you might actually enjoy and keep.
Red Fox- ............ 20lbs of lean muscle from Tbol.... who the hell told you this.... Most well thought out beginner cycles barely produce this unless a very large statured man. Not saying its impossible but even from 500mg Test, Dbol, and diet being perfect 20-25lbs is about all your going to get if its your first cycle and have a good bit of actual growth possible. I have never seen a oral as strong as what your talking about unless ran at ridiculous high dose for a dangerous length of time.
Have a good day!!!
08-01-2013, 02:49 PM
The reports of that many gains I believe correlated with the fact that they drastically increased protein and caloric intake during cycle.
Though 12-15 lbs doesn't seem uncommon with tbol.
Anavar only is NOT bad at ALL by ANY means as long as your goal is to get very cut and gain a few lbs of lean mass. Honestly I have no idea why you'd use anavar with test considering one is cut and the other is bulk, generally. Yes test p can be used to cut but let's get real, test has water retention and is used to bulk more than anything.
08-01-2013, 03:19 PM
08-01-2013, 03:20 PM
Unless your goal is to lose body fat and increase vascularity while gaining a few lbs of lean muscle?
No one should use anavar for mass in the first place, that's like dieting down to 1000 calories a day to get buff.
Anavar: Lose fat (get cut), put on 4ish lbs of muscle
Turanabol: Lose some fat, gain moderate amount of lean muscle (around 11 lbs)
Dbol: Gain mass (though bloat is included)
Testosterone: Gain mass (though bloat is included)
Anavar is at one side of the spectrum while things like test and dbol are at the other. Tbol is actually right in between
08-01-2013, 03:26 PM
I am going to ignore this entire statement... and end with ORAL ONLY CYCLES ARE ****. Period flat. The results are **** what you retain is ****. Considering not even 2 weeks ago I was giving you a ton of information I don't see how you have the experience to really be commenting on this. Also are you telling me that there is not a single body builder pro or amateur who uses Test while cutting for show... usually along with drugs such as Anavar or Winny. You are wrong if you believe this completely 100% wrong. Almost every single bodybuilder are using Test to help preserve muscle mass and lean out for a show. Anavar does not any way have a fat buring effect other adding a miniscule amount of muscle to your frame allowing a slight increase in metabolism. Even a drug such as Deca Durabolin infamous for its water bloat can be used effectively to lean out. Fat loss is a matter of diet not the amount of steroids you inject into your system.
Have a good day!!!
08-01-2013, 03:29 PM
08-01-2013, 03:29 PM
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