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    SERM Required


    I am taking:
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    Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione 15mg
    2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 10mg

    Taking two capsules a day 1 in morning / 1 before workout.

    My question is, can I take a strong otc PCT: erase+daa+dhea+dim or do I absolutely NEED a SERM for this stack?

    Also is this a good stack, or should I consider adding to it? I am 1 week in.

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    SERM! You should have bought the Serm before you started. Also get rid of the DHEA in your PCT it can be suppressive. Do you have anything on hand for prolactin issues?
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    That's to weak of a cycle. I'd add enough bottle or 2 so h can run it 6 weeks at 3 caps a day. U will need a SERM, I prefer clomid 50/50/25/25. Inhibit-P for prolactin just in case too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    That's to weak of a cycle. I'd add enough bottle or 2 so h can run it 6 weeks at 3 caps a day. U will need a SERM, I prefer clomid 50/50/25/25. Inhibit-P for prolactin just in case too.
    Add enough bottle or 2? What do you mean and what bottle should I add?

    What does 50/50/25/25 mean?

    I will buy inhibit-p, when should I take this? Also I have a product called estrogenex, should I utilize this at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post

    Add enough bottle or 2? What do you mean and what bottle should I add?

    What does 50/50/25/25 mean?

    I will buy inhibit-p, when should I take this? Also I have a product called estrogenex, should I utilize this at all?
    I mean of the PH so u can increase the dose and run it longer. Inhibit P is for on cycle for prolactin which could cause u side effects cuz of the tren. If u have clomid(SERM), Erase(AI/cortisol inhibitor) and DAA(test booster) then u don't need Estrogenex. 50/50/25/25 is your clomid dose. It means 50mg a day for the 1st and 2nd week then 25mg a day for the 3rd and 4th week.
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    I do not foresee this going well.
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    well.. i might have to stop taking today because i cannot get a serm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post
    well.. i might have to stop taking today because i cannot get a serm.
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post
    well.. i might have to stop taking today because i cannot get a serm.
    Poor excuse.
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    i bought my ph at a local store, do not know how to get a serm.
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    It's one thing to not be able to get a SERM because your country has strict purchasing policies or something like that, but the fact that you bought a PH somewhere in town and don't even know how or where to get a SERM is a recipe for disaster and shows how little you researched. This isn't a good idea, man.
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    I just got SERM, thanks.

    As for adding to my stack, what should I do?

    I only have 60 pills, should I buy another product?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post
    I just got SERM, thanks.

    As for adding to my stack, what should I do?

    I only have 60 pills, should I buy another product?
    Buy some Tren-stane by IronFlex
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    whats stacks well with:
    Estra-4,9,11-triene-3, 17-dione 10mg
    2a, 3-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 10mg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post
    whats stacks well with:
    Estra-4,9,11-triene-3, 17-dione 10mg
    2a, 3-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol 10mg

    ?
    More of it lol. I'd run 3 caps of this for 6 weeks and get a bottle of LGI Tvar-15 so u can up the tren dose.
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    I foresee a "no balls failed pct HELP!" Thread in our future lol
    Why not zoidberg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macdady View Post
    I foresee a "no balls failed pct HELP!" Thread in our future lol
    I really hope not lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I really hope not lol
    Me too but the way all these posts have been going lately its hard to be optimistic lol
    Why not zoidberg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by macdady View Post

    Me too but the way all these posts have been going lately its hard to be optimistic lol
    Yeah I see no research was done, he doesn't even know exactly what he's taking smh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Yeah I see no research was done, he doesn't even know exactly what he's taking smh.
    I'm not too concerned lol not my egg rolls. But still disheartening to see this crap more and more here... oh well
    Why not zoidberg?
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    Gotta love local shops selling this stuff. They don't care about anything and won't mention pct most of the time. If so it's some bs OTC pct. That's why this all gets a bad rap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2 View Post
    Gotta love local shops selling this stuff. They don't care about anything and won't mention pct most of the time. If so it's some bs OTC pct. That's why this all gets a bad rap.
    Yeah I know. I don't think they should sell these things at your local supp shop because I'm sure there are legal reason they can't tell you to hop online and go buy your "illegal" research chems.. that being said, where the hell do they sell pH's? I ain't never ever seen one in a shop near me... but some people need to learn the hard way
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    Quote Originally Posted by macdady View Post
    Yeah I know. I don't think they should sell these things at your local supp shop because I'm sure there are legal reason they can't tell you to hop online and go buy your "illegal" research chems.. that being said, where the hell do they sell pH's? I ain't never ever seen one in a shop near me... but some people need to learn the hard way
    I got a shop by me and the owner actually has a big bodybuilding team that I was apart of but that bastard didn't give a damn about my health as a young BBer. He'd sell any PH/DS to u with a OTC pct which wouldn't do jack sh*t for all the SD he was selling.
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    Haha that's like the place here. He put an 18 yr old on them for a show, and I asked what his pct was and he said what's that? Smh.
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    That's just sad
    Why not zoidberg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post

    Yeah I see no research was done, he doesn't even know exactly what he's taking smh.
    I do!
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    I don't even talk to people in the outside world about steroids. Too much explaining to do

    Well, that isn't true, I've talked about them to a few people who needed info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    I don't even talk to people in the outside world about steroids. Too much explaining to do

    Well, that isn't true, I've talked about them to a few people who needed info.
    I know of one guy at my gym that uses. I joke with him all the time. I nicknamed him juicy lol no one else knows why
    Why not zoidberg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    I don't even talk to people in the outside world about steroids. Too much explaining to do

    Well, that isn't true, I've talked about them to a few people who needed info.
    Same here. Its sad though cuz the guys that talk to me about them at my gym don't even know how to cycle properly. Its the young teaching the old. A guy told me that clomid was no good just use nolva, I laughed in his face. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    i went into a shop here in town about 7 years ago and the guy had some off brand, of m1t on the shelf for$80. i asked him about it for the hell of it, i had already run it a couple of times, and he said it would "make me cut". i asked if i needed anything else with it or for after i had took it and he tried to sell me some creatine. i said i was just lookin today. idk if he was ignorant or careless or what. probably just hard up for money. i never went back. the store closed within a year.
    Probably both ignorance and careless in it for the money and no concern for your health. People like that deserve what they get
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    Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post

    i went into a shop here in town about 7 years ago and the guy had some off brand, of m1t on the shelf for$80. i asked him about it for the hell of it, i had already run it a couple of times, and he said it would "make me cut". i asked if i needed anything else with it or for after i had took it and he tried to sell me some creatine. i said i was just lookin today. idk if he was ignorant or careless or what. probably just hard up for money. i never went back. the store closed within a year.
    That's a f*cking shame. What a f*cking scumbag.
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    what am i missing smart guys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post
    what am i missing smart guys?
    A SERM, Inhibit-P, and more Tren, your dose is too low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    A SERM, Inhibit-P, and more Tren, your dose is too low.
    would you recommend to increase the dosage of what i have now and just have a shorter cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post

    would you recommend to increase the dosage of what i have now and just have a shorter cycle?
    Naw I'd just get another bottle and a bottle of tren separate.
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    maybe next time, i just wanted to see how i would react.

    is this dosage okay enough where i will see some gains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post
    maybe next time, i just wanted to see how i would react.

    is this dosage okay enough where i will see some gains?
    Gains will b mediocre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wgolden30 View Post
    maybe next time, i just wanted to see how i would react.

    is this dosage okay enough where i will see some gains?
    Your going to get hhhhyyyyyyyuuuuuuggggeeeeee brah!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Your going to get hhhhyyyyyyyuuuuuuggggeeeeee brah!
    He's gonna look like Zyzz brah
  

  
 

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