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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    I was under the impression op didn't want to attract attention?

    30mg dbol
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    Wtf epistane? Nobody asked you dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    I was under the impression op didn't want to attract attention?

    30mg dbol
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    This is a thread based on advise for "Dbol only" nobody wants to stack a ****ty PH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swetz View Post
    I didn't say anything about epistane, you jackass. Get out of here already, I'm tired of you
    Oh hi!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yowler99 View Post
    This is a thread based on advise for "Dbol only" nobody wants to stack a ****ty PH
    The steroid Methepiostanol stacks very well with the steroid methandrostenolone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yowler99 View Post

    This is a thread based on advise for "Dbol only" nobody wants to stack a ****ty PH
    Dbol only cycles are stupid. Dbol and epi would bring more lean mass and strength gains, as well as add androginicity to the cycle. Learn something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    The steroid Methepiostanol stacks very well with the steroid methandrostenolone.
    I guess for cutting reasons with methandrostenolone. Would probably be the same with Winstrol. But epistane always gave hardening for me. Maybe like 2% bf change
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    The steroid Methepiostanol stacks very well with the steroid methandrostenolone.
    I wouldn't stack 2 methyls. I would just run it with the test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnyboombots View Post

    I wouldn't stack 2 methyls. I would just run it with the test.
    Liv 52 , cycle assist and some HCG could make it alright, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yowler99 View Post

    Liv 52 , cycle assist and some HCG could make it alright, right?
    But he has Testosterone, why are we even talking about Epistane!
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    That's why I wanted people's input, to learn more. Besides, I know guys a lot bigger than you that don't think dbol alone is a stupid cycle
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    Dbol alone is definitely stupid. The gains are primarily from water weight and you'll drop them once you get off. It's good for a kick starter for a test cycle.
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    Ya that seems to be the consensus, thanks for the input man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swetz View Post
    That's why I wanted people's input, to learn more. Besides, I know guys a lot bigger than you that don't think dbol alone is a stupid cycle
    Just cause your big doesn't mean you know anything about steroids.
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    Depending on how experienced one is, will determine if they're ready for more advanced cycles. If your a beginner, dbol, test, and lightly dosed ai is a good cycle.

    I'd personally choose dimethazine instead though. But again. If your unknowledgable about steroids, best to stick with the basics.
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    Very true
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post

    Dbol only cycles are stupid. Dbol and epi would bring more lean mass and strength gains, as well as add androginicity to the cycle. Learn something.
    Seem like you are well informed! Regardless of size (as stated I believe) you have me beat lol
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    Tren for second cycle ? Bit emotional at minute
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Depending on how experienced one is, will determine if they're ready for more advanced cycles. If your a beginner, dbol, test, and lightly dosed ai is a good cycle.

    I'd personally choose dimethazine instead though. But again. If your unknowledgable about steroids, best to stick with the basics.
    Omfg, all hail to the epistane touting gears master.

    Spelling and grammar honed for extra effect.

    What a condescending prick :coffee:
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    Thus far, Jbry seems to be the only one with a real grasp in this thread.

    You could also run Proviron with the Dbol. That, in combination with the Aro will keep the bloat down. Gains will be decent and easy to keep with a solid pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Hefe View Post
    Thus far, Jbry seems to be the only one with a real grasp in this thread.

    You could also run Proviron with the Dbol. That, in combination with the Aro will keep the bloat down. Gains will be decent and easy to keep with a solid pct.
    I disagree. While I do believe that a dbol only cycle is kind of a waste I also think that telling the op to add another methylated oral steroid on top of the dbol he's already gonna be taking is not that bright either. Op said that he can get himself some test, so maybe he should run one of the most classic cycles of all time - anywhere between 12-16 weeks of testosterone..kick started with between 4-6 weeks of dbol.
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    I agree Test would be good. I got the impression that the OP didn't want to pin, worried about his gf (which he needs to address), etc.

    However, if he chooses to run Dbol only, I suggest he would be well served to add Proviron.

    But I don't think his first run needs to be 12-16 weeks of Test either. First timers usually see good gains in the 6-10 week range. No need to jump into 16 week cycles. Leave a little room for progression.

    Also, all the talk (not necessarily by jiggero, but throughout this thread) about Dbol gains being temporarily is a myth. Water weight gains are temporary. If you control water and estrogen, you can make solid lean mass gains on Dbol. You could even cut with it. You can also bloat up like a dead fish on Test and then lose 70% of your gains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Hefe View Post
    Thus far, Jbry seems to be the only one with a real grasp in this thread.

    You could also run Proviron with the Dbol. That, in combination with the Aro will keep the bloat down. Gains will be decent and easy to keep with a solid pct.
    It's not lost on me. Jb is just a condescending wanker is all.
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    All good advice, a lot to consider. I suppose I'll do a little more research and decide whats going to work best for me. Thanks for all the advice, fellas
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    Quote Originally Posted by maffheeley View Post
    Tren for second cycle ? Bit emotional at minute
    Tren doesn't shut you down at all. No need for pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swetz View Post
    All good advice, a lot to consider. I suppose I'll do a little more research and decide whats going to work best for me. Thanks for all the advice, fellas
    All bull**** aside, I would run dzine (dimethazine) for six weeks at 30mg. It's dry, unlike dbol, and the gains are better imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captn_the View Post

    It's not lost on me. Jb is just a condescending wanker is all.
    I think we're becoming friends
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Hefe View Post
    . If you control water and estrogen, you can get solid lean mass gains on dbol.
    EXACTLY!! Dbol + arimidex + winny capper last 4 weeks = solid gains. And epi dbol is another "2 methyl" solid idea previously mentioned
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    Quote Originally Posted by amiller745 View Post

    Tren doesn't shut you down at all. No need for pct
    Il have pct regardless as I carried on from first cycle with another
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