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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    Yeah I guess so.

    Worst part is I sit at home in my apartment alone, because I dont want to go out and drink, or eat food, and I just feel more depressed.
    Yep that's how I felt too man. Light to moderate exercise rejuvenated without exhausting you. Just learned that. Too intense of basketball was killing me but this should help a bit. Try to find a video game or something to keep your mind off food

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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Yep that's how I felt too man. Light to moderate exercise rejuvenated without exhausting you. Just learned that. Too intense of basketball was killing me but this should help a bit. Try to find a video game or something to keep your mind off food
    i have self control. Im just saying, id rather stay home then go out and sit there with friends not eating or drinking. I feel like its worse for my depression to be alone, but when im with people, I just want to be alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    i have self control. Im just saying, id rather stay home then go out and sit there with friends not eating or drinking. I feel like its worse for my depression to be alone, but when im with people, I just want to be alone.
    That's exactly how I feel man. How old are you again? I'm 22. It suuuuuucccckkkssss. It's weird. It almost makes you think it's in your head but then I'm like there's no way this isn't me and I shouldn't have to try this hard to even be focused. I personally think its from dopamine depletion. Look up low dopamine side effects. It's alot like low test
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    That's exactly how I feel man. How old are you again? I'm 22. It suuuuuucccckkkssss. It's weird. It almost makes you think it's in your head but then I'm like there's no way this isn't me and I shouldn't have to try this hard to even be focused. I personally think its from dopamine depletion. Look up low dopamine side effects. It's alot like low test
    its an awful feeling. Sometime I will have good days, and sometimes I will have bad days. I am on an antidepressent now, and taking L-dopa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    its an awful feeling. Sometime I will have good days, and sometimes I will have bad days. I am on an antidepressent now, and taking L-dopa
    What anti depressant? How long? You should let me know how that goes for you in all aspects because I'd be curious to try a new one if I can't get better... Do you know if the doctor can check the amount of dopamine in your body?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    What anti depressant? How long? You should let me know how that goes for you in all aspects because I'd be curious to try a new one if I can't get better... Do you know if the doctor can check the amount of dopamine in your body?
    its an SSRI. I am on day 3 of it. Still dont feel different, however the doctor told me it will take a couple days/weeks to kick in. I dont know if they can check the amount of dopamine or seratonin. Have you tried 5-htp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    its an SSRI. I am on day 3 of it. Still dont feel different, however the doctor told me it will take a couple days/weeks to kick in. I dont know if they can check the amount of dopamine or seratonin. Have you tried 5-htp?
    Yeah. No luck
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    Anti-depressant and ldopa? Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2 View Post
    Anti-depressant and ldopa? Really?
    I know a lot of it has to due with outside factors and not the prohormone itself.
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    I'd do one or the other IMO. That's a lot going on with the brain man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2 View Post
    I'd do one or the other IMO. That's a lot going on with the brain man.
    dropping everything but my multi, zma, and daa at this point.
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    What is your free test at
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymrat727 View Post
    What is your free test at
    I didnt get it checked.
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    I forgot how old you were dr. Also did you use hcg? I didn't use HCG until this spring so I'm wondering if it will just take time. I don't really know
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I forgot how old you were dr. Also did you use hcg? I didn't use HCG until this spring so I'm wondering if it will just take time. I don't really know
    He's 22
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I forgot how old you were dr. Also did you use hcg? I didn't use HCG until this spring so I'm wondering if it will just take time. I don't really know
    about to turn 23. I didnt use any hcg, but did do a solo clomid cycle about a month after my pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    about to turn 23. I didnt use any hcg, but did do a solo clomid cycle about a month after my pct.
    I thought HCG would blow mine up but they didn't. Maybe made them a bit firmer. Mine are sitting at like 75 80% of their normal. Not as firm definitely. And for some reason I have the adderall dick/scrotum thing going on even though I haven't taken a stimulant in over 3 weeks. My dick is tougher and more compact almost. It's firm and tightened up when flaccid. It doesn't hang as much or stretch like normal. It's harder to get erections. Feels like blood flow is being restricted even though I'm not taking vasoconstrictors anymore. And Arginine doesn't help. My scrotum is also tighter and my balls are hugging my buddy. They barely ever hang low. When they do hang they seem "almost" normal size. I don't know why it's happening
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    really trying to go without caffeine. Had only 1 redbull today, still ended up taking a 2 hour nap though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post
    really trying to go without caffeine. Had only 1 redbull today, still ended up taking a 2 hour nap though.
    Same here I sleep 10-12 hours a day. No motivation and no sex drive. ED too
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    Pick up some Torem run it for 4 weeks... if that doesnt work go see a doctor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritatis View Post
    Pick up some Torem run it for 4 weeks... if that doesnt work go see a doctor
    any reasoning behind this? I have low e2, so I feel like that would be a waste of money.
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    would it be a waste to run another 4 week clomid solo cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post
    would it be a waste to run another 4 week clomid solo cycle?
    You've tried the clomid already, and it gives out ****ty emotional side effects. I would say go with torem. Idk what the deal is but I don't seem to have a sex drive either with seemingly perfect bloodwork. Have you talked to doctors on what else the problem could be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    You've tried the clomid already, and it gives out ****ty emotional side effects. I would say go with torem. Idk what the deal is but I don't seem to have a sex drive either with seemingly perfect bloodwork. Have you talked to doctors on what else the problem could be?
    yes, and said even though my bloods were low, they're in range, and the low libido is probably due to depression. I had sex last night, and was hard and lasted a while, and felt so good cuming. And all this was without liquid cialis. So I feel like depression/anxiety is the reason. I had a bad anxity attack today, but took a vyvanse (im prescribed) went to work, and smoked a couple cigs and mood was completely changed. I feel like the main thing with this kind of situation that you and I are both in, is you need to just go out and take your mind off of things, if you sit at your computer researching all this stuff you are going to look way into stuff and just freak yourself out more. Stop taking stuff unless your doc has prescribed it. take your mind off of how bad you feel, stop playing with your nuts, stop trying to jerk off even when you are not in the mood, stop worrying about if you are getting morning wood or not, just eat well, eat lots of fat, and just enjoy summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    yes, and said even though my bloods were low, they're in range, and the low libido is probably due to depression. I had sex last night, and was hard and lasted a while, and felt so good cuming. And all this was without liquid cialis. So I feel like depression/anxiety is the reason. I had a bad anxity attack today, but took a vyvanse (im prescribed) went to work, and smoked a couple cigs and mood was completely changed. I feel like the main thing with this kind of situation that you and I are both in, is you need to just go out and take your mind off of things, if you sit at your computer researching all this stuff you are going to look way into stuff and just freak yourself out more. Stop taking stuff unless your doc has prescribed it. take your mind off of how bad you feel, stop playing with your nuts, stop trying to jerk off even when you are not in the mood, stop worrying about if you are getting morning wood or not, just eat well, eat lots of fat, and just enjoy summer.
    I have tried going out. I've tried alot. I went out all last summer and did all the same things as before and never felt good. Always exhausted and no interest in sex, just rest. It's as if I can't keep up with anyone because I feel so 'out of it' and tired. My last pct ended and I felt great after and had a raging sex drive. I don't have that this time. There's no denying that there is a difference from last time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I have tried going out. I've tried alot. I went out all last summer and did all the same things as before and never felt good. Always exhausted and no interest in sex, just rest. It's as if I can't keep up with anyone because I feel so 'out of it' and tired. My last pct ended and I felt great after and had a raging sex drive. I don't have that this time. There's no denying that there is a difference from last time.
    well its mental then. Plan and simple, what is causing you to not feel as good.. YOU. Stop trying to take a miracle pill that will make you feel how you felt when you were on chemicals. I really think you are overthinking, overreasearching, and feeling sorry for yourself, that is putting you in such a funk. Idk maybe I will wake up tomorrow and have a bad day, I had an awful morning this morning, straight up crying and feeling sorry for myself, then picked myself up, and told myself to harden the fu*k up, and get over it. Even my mother told me this, "When you feel it coming on, you fight it, dont let yourself feel sorry for yourself, and you fight for that happiness"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    well its mental then. Plan and simple, what is causing you to not feel as good.. YOU. Stop trying to take a miracle pill that will make you feel how you felt when you were on chemicals. I really think you are overthinking, overreasearching, and feeling sorry for yourself, that is putting you in such a funk. Idk maybe I will wake up tomorrow and have a bad day, I had an awful morning this morning, straight up crying and feeling sorry for myself, then picked myself up, and told myself to harden the fu*k up, and get over it. Even my mother told me this, "When you feel it coming on, you fight it, dont let yourself feel sorry for yourself, and you fight for that happiness"
    I get what you're saying. I have been trying is what I'm saying. The whole last summer I didn't know I was shutdown so I was going about my normal business but feeling like crap. Not until I did blood tests did I realize what was going on. Also, if I take adderall I feel no anxiety, I have good energy and mood and more libido. Not quite my old self but decent. I also have focus. I haven't taken it in a month though. That's what makes me think its dopamine related. I don't think about this problem anymore I just go about my daily business. It's hard to not notice it when you just don't get those happy feelings doing normal activities. I don't think about it I really don't, but when it just feels off I notice it. I never dwell on it anymore and never stress about it, I'm just saying I still don't feel normal. Progress is there but it's not good just yet. I feel like it is neurotransmitter related. I guess im saying that simply i shouldnt have to try to have fun. Fun should be fun and come to me. And no the adderall isn't pulling a placebo on me, I generally feel excitement in just talking to people on it. Lets say I used to feel 100%. In my darkest days months ago I was let's say 0%. When I take aderall I get maybe 60% just because libido is iffy. Without it NOW I'm probably 25%. Progress but not a ton yet. I've read it takes months away from adderall to start feeling normal again.
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    I hope you can understand my point of view
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    why are you getting off the adderall? We all have bad days, and this is over the course of a year, maybe its not the neurotransmitters or the dopamine levels, yet just you changing as a person. That this "normal" feeling is you last year, and you need to re-find that "normal" feeling..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post
    why are you getting off the adderall? We all have bad days, and this is over the course of a year, maybe its not the neurotransmitters or the dopamine levels, yet just you changing as a person. That this "normal" feeling is you last year, and you need to re-find that "normal" feeling..
    It's not normal to not be interested in sex and not find anything fun. I get what you're saying and how we all mature and change. I just don't think I'd dislike hanging out with friends when I loved it. Who does like friends? I just can't seem to enjoy things. I don't get any euphoric feelings anymore. Nothing is like "yeah! Lets do that" it just isn't there... I'm off the adderall because when I was shut down I asked my doctor for it to get me through the semester and took or for about 6 or 7 months even though I don't have ADD or ADHD. Im stopping because I shouldn't even be taking it. Now that my test is back I shouldn't need it. I think now I'm going through withdrawals of it: fatigue, anhedonia, no happiness, just trudging through the day doing my best to keep my head up, weak joints and muscles, crazy nightmares all the time, gait and uncoordination like you wouldn't believe.
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