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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    no i did not. And I ran a superdrol clone.
    Dude idk how much stock there is in this theory but I've heard alot of people not recovering from superdrol like ever. It's what I ran and 15 months later I have no sex drive. All my bloods are good. My FSH is only 2.0 which makes me wonder if that has any relation to ball size (mine arent what they use to be) or sex drive (not good). But idk if superdrol takes way longer like Tren or not. Does anybody know why Superdrol converts to? Does what it converts to take a long time to recover from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    no i did not. And I ran a superdrol clone.
    I figured as much. Superdrol is an insane compound.


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    Dude idk how much stock there is in this theory but I've heard alot of people not recovering from superdrol like ever. It's what I ran and 15 months later I have no sex drive. All my bloods are good. My FSH is only 2.0 which makes me wonder if that has any relation to ball size (mine arent what they use to be) or sex drive (not good). But idk if superdrol takes way longer like Tren or not. Does anybody know why Superdrol converts to? Does what it converts to take a long time to recover from?
    Superdrol is a derivative of Drostanolon (also known as masteron) which is the 2-methylated form of DHT, so it has typically been used for reducing body-fat and water retention, while increasing muscle hardness and density. There should be no estrogen conversion with this compound, because it's 5a-reduced and A-ring alkylated on top of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Dude idk how much stock there is in this theory but I've heard alot of people not recovering from superdrol like ever. It's what I ran and 15 months later I have no sex drive. All my bloods are good. My FSH is only 2.0 which makes me wonder if that has any relation to ball size (mine arent what they use to be) or sex drive (not good). But idk if superdrol takes way longer like Tren or not. Does anybody know why Superdrol converts to? Does what it converts to take a long time to recover from?

    dont be telling me this man, its only going to fuk with my head more. I just got put on antidepressants and antianxiety medication. This fuking sucks. I am thinking about running a cycle of test e in a couple weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    dont be telling me this man, its only going to fuk with my head more. I just got put on antidepressants and antianxiety medication. This fuking sucks. I am thinking about running a cycle of test e in a couple weeks.
    My bad man. I've actually been feeling a bit better. Not crazy amounts but steps. Are you masterbating often? Or taking alot of stimulants?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    My bad man. I've actually been feeling a bit better. Not crazy amounts but steps. Are you masterbating often? Or taking alot of stimulants?
    no i dont masterbate. Have sex with my gf a couple times a week, but just not into it. I am not taking a lot of stimulants however drinking a lot of caffeine. I hate this feeling. Im really having a hard time dealing with this chit.
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    How do I increase my estrogen? Eat soy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post
    Testosterone is 443 range 348-1197
    LH is 2.6 range is 1.7-8.6
    FSH is 2.2 range is 1.5-12.4
    Estradiol is 6.2 range is 7.6-42.6
    Honestly, you need to have this information interpreted by your primary care provider or a relevant specialist.

    Other things one must consider are (a) age, (b) time of blood draw, (c) prolactin.
    - 443 isn't low by the reference range to begin with.
    - "Normal" is also age dependent.
    - If you had the draw done in the PM instead of the AM then it's likely your value would have been closer to 650 anyway.
    - Prolactin should also be included in this panel because high levels are a possible cause of reduced sex hormone levels.
    - Lastly, much of the treatment is based on the clinical symptoms. If you've got medically documented hypogonadism AND have bothersome symptoms, then someone should treat it. If you've got medically documented hypogonadism and DO NOT have bothersome symptoms, you really don't "need" help, or treatment.

    If you need a second opinion, do it in a medical clinic. Not only can your fellow AM'ers not do anything for you, but their advice is often based on material that they've read and don't even understand -- even if they think they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post
    How do I increase my estrogen? Eat soy?
    You can actually buy estradiol if you feel to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinytony View Post
    You can actually buy estradiol if you feel to.
    how long does it take your body to return to homeostasis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    how long does it take your body to return to homeostasis?
    Technically you should be there in 3-4 months depending on the cycle. Some people read totally normal a month after PCT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    no i dont masterbate. Have sex with my gf a couple times a week, but just not into it. I am not taking a lot of stimulants however drinking a lot of caffeine. I hate this feeling. Im really having a hard time dealing with this chit.
    Caffeine is a stimulant. How much are you taking
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Caffeine is a stimulant. How much are you taking
    6-10 cups a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    6-10 cups a day.
    Caffeine is a powder. Cups of coffee? How many mgs is that
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Caffeine is a powder. Cups of coffee? How many mgs is that
    probably ~ 1000mg a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    probably ~ 1000mg a day
    Holy hell that's alot. That's probably part of your problem. You're probably dependent on it. It raise cortisol aka stress and it cases temporary ED because of the blood vessel vasoconstriction and it surges dopamine at a higher rate than normal so without it you feel grumpy etc and over time it takes more and more caffeine to feel normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Holy hell that's alot. That's probably part of your problem. You're probably dependent on it. It raise cortisol aka stress and it cases temporary ED because of the blood vessel vasoconstriction and it surges dopamine at a higher rate than normal so without it you feel grumpy etc and over time it takes more and more caffeine to feel normal.
    Yeah I know, I have been trying to cut it down. I know I need to eventually cut back a lot. Just helps. If I dont take it, I dont want to get out of bed, and will feel tired all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    Yeah I know, I have been trying to cut it down. I know I need to eventually cut back a lot. Just helps. If I dont take it, I dont want to get out of bed, and will feel tired all day.
    Well yeah. That's withdrawal for ya haha. I'm going through it from adderall abuse now. It helps to ween off the caffeine
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Well yeah. That's withdrawal for ya haha. I'm going through it from adderall abuse now. It helps to ween off the caffeine
    I have been consuming caffine since I was 12 probably. Its an addiction for sure.

    Currently working on reverse dieting, so I know I need to drop the caffeine, however it helps with hunger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    I have been consuming caffine since I was 12 probably. Its an addiction for sure.

    Currently working on reverse dieting, so I know I need to drop the caffeine, however it helps with hunger.
    So did adderall but eventually you have to stop
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    So did adderall but eventually you have to stop
    Yeah I guess so.


    Worst part is I sit at home in my apartment alone, because I dont want to go out and drink, or eat food, and I just feel more depressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    Yeah I guess so.

    Worst part is I sit at home in my apartment alone, because I dont want to go out and drink, or eat food, and I just feel more depressed.
    Yep that's how I felt too man. Light to moderate exercise rejuvenated without exhausting you. Just learned that. Too intense of basketball was killing me but this should help a bit. Try to find a video game or something to keep your mind off food
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    Yep that's how I felt too man. Light to moderate exercise rejuvenated without exhausting you. Just learned that. Too intense of basketball was killing me but this should help a bit. Try to find a video game or something to keep your mind off food
    i have self control. Im just saying, id rather stay home then go out and sit there with friends not eating or drinking. I feel like its worse for my depression to be alone, but when im with people, I just want to be alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    i have self control. Im just saying, id rather stay home then go out and sit there with friends not eating or drinking. I feel like its worse for my depression to be alone, but when im with people, I just want to be alone.
    That's exactly how I feel man. How old are you again? I'm 22. It suuuuuucccckkkssss. It's weird. It almost makes you think it's in your head but then I'm like there's no way this isn't me and I shouldn't have to try this hard to even be focused. I personally think its from dopamine depletion. Look up low dopamine side effects. It's alot like low test
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    That's exactly how I feel man. How old are you again? I'm 22. It suuuuuucccckkkssss. It's weird. It almost makes you think it's in your head but then I'm like there's no way this isn't me and I shouldn't have to try this hard to even be focused. I personally think its from dopamine depletion. Look up low dopamine side effects. It's alot like low test
    its an awful feeling. Sometime I will have good days, and sometimes I will have bad days. I am on an antidepressent now, and taking L-dopa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    its an awful feeling. Sometime I will have good days, and sometimes I will have bad days. I am on an antidepressent now, and taking L-dopa
    What anti depressant? How long? You should let me know how that goes for you in all aspects because I'd be curious to try a new one if I can't get better... Do you know if the doctor can check the amount of dopamine in your body?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    What anti depressant? How long? You should let me know how that goes for you in all aspects because I'd be curious to try a new one if I can't get better... Do you know if the doctor can check the amount of dopamine in your body?
    its an SSRI. I am on day 3 of it. Still dont feel different, however the doctor told me it will take a couple days/weeks to kick in. I dont know if they can check the amount of dopamine or seratonin. Have you tried 5-htp?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    its an SSRI. I am on day 3 of it. Still dont feel different, however the doctor told me it will take a couple days/weeks to kick in. I dont know if they can check the amount of dopamine or seratonin. Have you tried 5-htp?
    Yeah. No luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2 View Post
    Anti-depressant and ldopa? Really?
    I know a lot of it has to due with outside factors and not the prohormone itself.
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    I'd do one or the other IMO. That's a lot going on with the brain man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhns2 View Post
    I'd do one or the other IMO. That's a lot going on with the brain man.
    dropping everything but my multi, zma, and daa at this point.
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    I forgot how old you were dr. Also did you use hcg? I didn't use HCG until this spring so I'm wondering if it will just take time. I don't really know
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I forgot how old you were dr. Also did you use hcg? I didn't use HCG until this spring so I'm wondering if it will just take time. I don't really know
    He's 22
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    Quote Originally Posted by xams2387 View Post
    I forgot how old you were dr. Also did you use hcg? I didn't use HCG until this spring so I'm wondering if it will just take time. I don't really know
    about to turn 23. I didnt use any hcg, but did do a solo clomid cycle about a month after my pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post

    about to turn 23. I didnt use any hcg, but did do a solo clomid cycle about a month after my pct.
    I thought HCG would blow mine up but they didn't. Maybe made them a bit firmer. Mine are sitting at like 75 80% of their normal. Not as firm definitely. And for some reason I have the adderall dick/scrotum thing going on even though I haven't taken a stimulant in over 3 weeks. My dick is tougher and more compact almost. It's firm and tightened up when flaccid. It doesn't hang as much or stretch like normal. It's harder to get erections. Feels like blood flow is being restricted even though I'm not taking vasoconstrictors anymore. And Arginine doesn't help. My scrotum is also tighter and my balls are hugging my buddy. They barely ever hang low. When they do hang they seem "almost" normal size. I don't know why it's happening
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    really trying to go without caffeine. Had only 1 redbull today, still ended up taking a 2 hour nap though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drbrology3 View Post
    really trying to go without caffeine. Had only 1 redbull today, still ended up taking a 2 hour nap though.
    Same here I sleep 10-12 hours a day. No motivation and no sex drive. ED too
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