This isn't to say that this product isn't interesting though....
I should say that my earlier post is more oriented toward those who might lack the knowledge in these areas. The main message (to those who're interested) is that we shouldn't get carried away with predictions about a drug based on superficial, structural similarities to another, better known drug. Here are a couple of reasons off-hand, and in plain English: (those who know this stuff bear with me)
1. The 2a-methyl on masteron has different properties from the 2-methyl on msten or Mithras. This might or might not change how it affects the way the hormone is metabolized.
2. In my mind this is the more likely reason. I'll start by saying, DHT is readily converted to less active metabolites at certain places on the molecule (specifically C17 and C3). The 2a-methyl group (masteron) protects it at one of those vulnerable positions, meaning that the 2-CH3 essentially allows masteron to have a longer half-life in skeletal muscle than its parent molecule, DHT.
Now hormones like phera and M1T are also protected at this same vulnerable position on the molecule (like masteron). The double bond at C1 on M1T likely confers good protection to M1T from being converted to a less active metabolite. Adding a 2-CH3 (msten) will not add much more protection than it already has. If anything, it's conceivable that adding that 2-CH3 might be instead creating a less stable molecule.
This isn't to say that this product isn't interesting though....
yeah there isn't really enough research on the metabolism of the compounds to say for sure whats happening in vivo. personally, i believe that most companies who release these designers dont know or care about the structure or its metabolism. they just saw it in Vida's book and what works in rats usually will work in humans. they located the most potent ones on paper and had a Chinese lab to make it for them. i dont know for sure about mithras but if it turns out to be a miss, this is puzzling because the numbers on paper look extremely promising.
in henryv's write up on msten
A more recent (2009) paper on the effects of structural modifications to steroids concluded that the addition of a 2-methyl function to a 1-ene steroid had little effect on the relative potency of the compound .
so it would appear that it doesn't affect the metabolism. the additional 2ch3 likely affects ar binding or metabolism though, because the effects of m1t and msten seems to be different in people who have ran them both. idk though.
Figured I'd make an account and keep it updated as I'm on day 4 of Mithras. Ill keep it updated as I'm deployed and have plenty of time to keep up on the forums. This is my 3rd cycle of PH. I first started with with Sasquatch DNA then some silverback DNA a little later. Did a PCT of clomex ( great stuff by the way ) anyway, I'm also using dienezone once a day with Mithras also. I have the organ shield also. PCT and D test for when I'm done. Ill start off by saying its only day 4, I have a little more pimples goin on, not so much for strength yet, I'm able to do the same weights just as before but i can put up 1to2 more reps and feel I need less rest in between sets. After four days ill say I've noticed a little more endurance, that's Bout all. I take one capsule around 12pm when I wake up with some food, go to work, take another capsule around 7-8 pm, rub the dienezone ( 1ML ) on around 1130pm then go to the gym, then take a 3rd pill about 3am and go to sleep. Ill try and get on every other few days and keep you updated.
All the logs I have seen show that mithras is not that strong but still a good PH.
I believe this is day 7 now. My appetite has increased, that's the most noticeable. 2lb difference on the scale. My strength has stayed about the same, but endurance is really starting to come on strong, especially towards the end of my workouts. I'm tired all the damn time though, however I find if I eat some source of carbs it's usually goes away. My overall body 'look' is leaner within just a week. I'm giving this a thumbs up as of right now.
So the last two days I tried something different. My strength wasn't really increasing, nor decreasing either but I could go longer with out getting tired. Instead of my 4 sets of 6 reps I decided to mix it up the last two days with 6 sets of 14-16 reps. Obviously lighter weight. I wil say I looked bigger then I've ever been after a workout, got a real good 'tear' 'pump' stretch, whatever u wanna call it. I did chest two days ago and I'm just now starting to feel sore. I will continue with the higher volume to finish out my week, then go back to higher weight less sets. Depending on how the week ends. Again, kind of early to tell still, but so far so good
Took a rest day yesterday and came back today with a power clean, front squat day. My one rep max on cleans is/was 210lbs. Today I did 135 as a warm up, 5 reps. Went to 185 for 5 more reps. Felt super easy, not sure what happened, if it was the rest day or the Mithras is starting to kick it, but I felt great. Put 205 on it, did it easy. Good form and caught it right into a deep front squat. Stopped for about 1 minute, did 205 again 3 times no rest with good form. Continued to do 7 more reps 1 at a time with 20 sec rest in between. Last one my form was pretty bad so I stopped there. Tons of energy, starting to break out a little more on my back though, but it's not horrible by any means. Tomorrow is a shoulder day, ill post how that goes. Hopefully I get more of the same kick I had today.
Google the history of the ancient deity MITHRAS. Very cool history behind this name
So my shoulder day was great, improvements all around. Leg day was also good. I do deep squats, i like going low and slow so I can feel the individual leg muscles being worked. My ORM was 345, yesterday on sets 5 and 6 I did 315x3 then back to 225 for 10 more reps. I've reduced my carbs the last two days to help lean out a little more, I'm pretty much done with that idea after two days. Today sucked! My back workout I really didn't see any improvements weight wise. I've been craving begals with cream cheese all day! I'm gonna cut the carbs down after this cycle. But when I wasn't messing around with my diet and cuttin carbs nothing but great energy and good workouts on this stuff. I feel Sasquatch DNA was a much better choice for me at this point, but it is still very expensive. However, I ran two bottles of DNA. Most my PH cycles don't really kick in till week 3-4 so I'm still optimistic about Mithras. So far so good, my short fall today was due on my diet change and totally my fault. Ill be back in a few more days with updates
Sorry, just trying to be thorough. Here, I'll keep it non TMI. Went to the gym today, felt good. Added 20lbs to my ORM on a lift and 15 on another.
Is the general consensus that Mithras isn't as 'epic' as everyone was thinking a few months ago? I can't find any stellar reviews for this compound
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