If you are buying Mithras or cycling it RIGHT NOW

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  1. Listen to Henry he's mo' smarter than I is...

  2. crap!!!


    I've been on it 3 weeks first week 10mg nothing, about week and a half 20mg still nothing now 30mg ,and all I've got out of it is insomnia, mood swings, I get pissed off for stupid ****,the worst gas and smelling ****s of my life.and my sex drive has taking a dive.I am in a calorie deficit so I wasn't expecting huge gains just to lose fat and maintain but it truly seems like I'm losing strength just as fast as I would on nothing
    Now the pro's. it was cheap,I have gained some size to my arms, barely 1/8 of a inch,but some ....that's it. My weight is the same I benched 315 for 6 last week now today I could only do 300 for 5 I've cut on winny before and gained while losing I just expected more for something with a anabolic ratio of 1000/1040
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  3. Glad I got m1t instead of this.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Glad I got m1t instead of this.
    Lol

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Glad I got m1t instead of this.
    I'm just sketched about ordering it overseas

  6. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post

    I'm just sketched about ordering it overseas
    I used to be as well. But though it takes about 2 weeks, its always made it.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    If 2 methylation has consistent results then Mithras is to Phera what Masteron is to DHT.
    If it did, then we would expect msten : m1t :: masteron : DHT

    Also, it's been mentioned itt, but the 2-CH3 on Mithras has a different spatial configuration from the 2a-CH3 on masteron (not that this necessarily accounts for any real or perceived difference in the relative effects that the 2-CH3 or 2a-CH3 confer on the "base" molecule). My point is just that the quoted analogy from earlier itt, and mine above, might be interesting from a more general, academic perspective, but might not be so accurate in regard to considering the real world relationship between these molecules.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jason79 View Post
    I also know a little O chem.
    ^I think that's what you were trying to say...

  9. Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    ^I think that's what you were trying to say...
    Yeah, maybe.

    If people sift through the "look at me pretend to be smart on the internet talk" they might find a kernel of wisdom somewhere in there too though.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jason79 View Post
    Yeah, maybe.

    If people sift through the "look at me pretend to be smart on the internet talk" they might find a kernel of wisdom somewhere in there too though.
    That's how I started...
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  11. I should say that my earlier post is more oriented toward those who might lack the knowledge in these areas. The main message (to those who're interested) is that we shouldn't get carried away with predictions about a drug based on superficial, structural similarities to another, better known drug. Here are a couple of reasons off-hand, and in plain English: (those who know this stuff bear with me)

    1. The 2a-methyl on masteron has different properties from the 2-methyl on msten or Mithras. This might or might not change how it affects the way the hormone is metabolized.

    2. In my mind this is the more likely reason. I'll start by saying, DHT is readily converted to less active metabolites at certain places on the molecule (specifically C17 and C3). The 2a-methyl group (masteron) protects it at one of those vulnerable positions, meaning that the 2-CH3 essentially allows masteron to have a longer half-life in skeletal muscle than its parent molecule, DHT.

    Now hormones like phera and M1T are also protected at this same vulnerable position on the molecule (like masteron). The double bond at C1 on M1T likely confers good protection to M1T from being converted to a less active metabolite. Adding a 2-CH3 (msten) will not add much more protection than it already has. If anything, it's conceivable that adding that 2-CH3 might be instead creating a less stable molecule.

  12. This isn't to say that this product isn't interesting though....

  13. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    in henryv's write up on msten
    A more recent (2009) paper on the effects of structural modifications to steroids concluded that the addition of a 2-methyl function to a 1-ene steroid had little effect on the relative potency of the compound [6].
    I went on to point out that the quote was citing a study in which only parenteral administration was compared.
    Antus Labs rep

  14. Figured I'd make an account and keep it updated as I'm on day 4 of Mithras. Ill keep it updated as I'm deployed and have plenty of time to keep up on the forums. This is my 3rd cycle of PH. I first started with with Sasquatch DNA then some silverback DNA a little later. Did a PCT of clomex ( great stuff by the way ) anyway, I'm also using dienezone once a day with Mithras also. I have the organ shield also. PCT and D test for when I'm done. Ill start off by saying its only day 4, I have a little more pimples goin on, not so much for strength yet, I'm able to do the same weights just as before but i can put up 1to2 more reps and feel I need less rest in between sets. After four days ill say I've noticed a little more endurance, that's Bout all. I take one capsule around 12pm when I wake up with some food, go to work, take another capsule around 7-8 pm, rub the dienezone ( 1ML ) on around 1130pm then go to the gym, then take a 3rd pill about 3am and go to sleep. Ill try and get on every other few days and keep you updated.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    yeah there isn't really enough research on the metabolism of the compounds to say for sure whats happening in vivo. personally, i believe that most companies who release these designers dont know or care about the structure or its metabolism. they just saw it in Vida's book and what works in rats usually will work in humans. they located the most potent ones on paper and had a Chinese lab to make it for them. i dont know for sure about mithras but if it turns out to be a miss, this is puzzling because the numbers on paper look extremely promising.in henryv's write up on mstenA more recent (2009) paper on the effects of structural modifications to steroids concluded that the addition of a 2-methyl function to a 1-ene steroid had little effect on the relative potency of the compound [6].so it would appear that it doesn't affect the metabolism. the additional 2ch3 likely affects ar binding or metabolism though, because the effects of m1t and msten seems to be different in people who have ran them both. idk though.
    There are plenty of subjective reports suggest that msten is qualitatively different from m1t and slightly less potent. Mithras does look impressive on paper. Well see how it looks as more people try it and talk about it. I will say that I've known henryv a while on a few forums and if there's any info on these compounds he's likely found it and posted a spot on interpretation and analysis of it.

  16. m1t>msten>mithras
    All the logs I have seen show that mithras is not that strong but still a good PH.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post
    m1t>msten>mithrasAll the logs I have seen show that mithras is not that strong but still a good PH.
    From a few logs I've seen it seems like Mithras does have a nice androgenic punch which can be fun depending on goals and expectations.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    yeah, the numbers on dymethazine are by inj. do you think you will ever do a write up on it? used to be stated that it is cleaved into 2 sd molecules, but everybody says its different. i had the thought that a 3-N2 compound and a 2ch3 protomax hybrid is formed. idk just thinking out loud here.
    The question marks over the specifics of its metabolism are the only reason I haven't published one yet. I've PM'd you the unfinished profile.
    Antus Labs rep

  19. Quote Originally Posted by henryv View Post

    The question marks over the specifics of its metabolism are the only reason I haven't published one yet. I've PM'd you the unfinished profile.
    Didn't pa say he believed it should become 2 methasteron molecules?

  20. I figured I'd leave this here for those who are interested.

    Mithras, Epistane, and Trenavar log:

    Serving the Iron Legion: Mithras, Epistane, and Trenavar

  21. I believe this is day 7 now. My appetite has increased, that's the most noticeable. 2lb difference on the scale. My strength has stayed about the same, but endurance is really starting to come on strong, especially towards the end of my workouts. I'm tired all the damn time though, however I find if I eat some source of carbs it's usually goes away. My overall body 'look' is leaner within just a week. I'm giving this a thumbs up as of right now.

  22. So the last two days I tried something different. My strength wasn't really increasing, nor decreasing either but I could go longer with out getting tired. Instead of my 4 sets of 6 reps I decided to mix it up the last two days with 6 sets of 14-16 reps. Obviously lighter weight. I wil say I looked bigger then I've ever been after a workout, got a real good 'tear' 'pump' stretch, whatever u wanna call it. I did chest two days ago and I'm just now starting to feel sore. I will continue with the higher volume to finish out my week, then go back to higher weight less sets. Depending on how the week ends. Again, kind of early to tell still, but so far so good

  23. Took a rest day yesterday and came back today with a power clean, front squat day. My one rep max on cleans is/was 210lbs. Today I did 135 as a warm up, 5 reps. Went to 185 for 5 more reps. Felt super easy, not sure what happened, if it was the rest day or the Mithras is starting to kick it, but I felt great. Put 205 on it, did it easy. Good form and caught it right into a deep front squat. Stopped for about 1 minute, did 205 again 3 times no rest with good form. Continued to do 7 more reps 1 at a time with 20 sec rest in between. Last one my form was pretty bad so I stopped there. Tons of energy, starting to break out a little more on my back though, but it's not horrible by any means. Tomorrow is a shoulder day, ill post how that goes. Hopefully I get more of the same kick I had today.

  24. Google the history of the ancient deity MITHRAS. Very cool history behind this name

  25. So my shoulder day was great, improvements all around. Leg day was also good. I do deep squats, i like going low and slow so I can feel the individual leg muscles being worked. My ORM was 345, yesterday on sets 5 and 6 I did 315x3 then back to 225 for 10 more reps. I've reduced my carbs the last two days to help lean out a little more, I'm pretty much done with that idea after two days. Today sucked! My back workout I really didn't see any improvements weight wise. I've been craving begals with cream cheese all day! I'm gonna cut the carbs down after this cycle. But when I wasn't messing around with my diet and cuttin carbs nothing but great energy and good workouts on this stuff. I feel Sasquatch DNA was a much better choice for me at this point, but it is still very expensive. However, I ran two bottles of DNA. Most my PH cycles don't really kick in till week 3-4 so I'm still optimistic about Mithras. So far so good, my short fall today was due on my diet change and totally my fault. Ill be back in a few more days with updates

  26. Sorry, just trying to be thorough. Here, I'll keep it non TMI. Went to the gym today, felt good. Added 20lbs to my ORM on a lift and 15 on another.

  27. Is the general consensus that Mithras isn't as 'epic' as everyone was thinking a few months ago? I can't find any stellar reviews for this compound

  28. Quote Originally Posted by drewsicle3210 View Post
    Is the general consensus that Mithras isn't as 'epic' as everyone was thinking a few months ago? I can't find any stellar reviews for this compound
    "Epic" means different things to different people; for size gains we tend to think of M1T, SD, and Phera as the top-tier anabolics. Mithras is not in that category.

    But that does not mean it should be ignored.

    I see many loggers run SD, M1A, Super DMZ, or any combination of the "big boy" compounds and put on the size fairly quickly. My question is, and especially for those who are NOT pinning test or other AAS alongside their orals, where are those gains 3+ months after PCT has been completed? I don't care how big I get during a 4-6 week period or how much glycogen these compounds can make me retain. Glycogen isn't mass, water isn't mass, its here today and gone tomorrow for those of us who aren't pinning. I'm more interested about whether I'll keep any size gains in the long term. To that end, Mithras seems to be similar to Triumphalis but time will tell, at least with regards to my run.

  29. Word. Excellent response bro, thanks.
  

  
 

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