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    New M-sten cycle


    Height: 5'10"
    Weight: 160 lbs
    Age: 27
    Workout is at 6pm - 5 days/wk

    Running weeks 1-4:
    M-sten 20 mg/day @ 6am & 4pm
    Ultra male rx 1 cap/day @ 6am
    advanced cycle support 2 caps/day 1@11am & 1@9pm
    Multi-vitamin with M-sten

    Weeks 5-8:
    Nolva 20/20/10/10 before bed
    Advanced cycle support 1@6am 1@4pm
    Ultra Male Rx 1 cap/day @ 6am

    E-control RX 2.0 3 caps at bed weeks 8-10


    Anything i should add? This is for a bulking cycle, 250-275 g protein/day roughly 3500 cal. After week 4 dropping down to 200g protein and 2500 cal.

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    good luck
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    Looks pretty good but I would get some taurine because m-sten gave me some serious lower back pumps and taurine @ 3g per day seemed to solve it for the most part. I didn't gain a ton of weight from it but my strength went through the roof.
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    Keep us update with progress/results.
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    How much taurine do you think atl3128? Like 500mg ed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltan View Post
    How much taurine do you think atl3128? Like 500mg ed?
    I used 3 to 5 grams per day dosed morning before working out. It's trial and error to figure what amount would work for your body.

    Watching your log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atl3128 View Post
    Looks pretty good but I would get some taurine because m-sten gave me some serious lower back pumps and taurine @ 3g per day seemed to solve it for the most part. I didn't gain a ton of weight from it but my strength went through the roof.
    I agree with this!!
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    How much taurine do you think atl3128? Like 500mg ed?
    I used 3-4 grams per day half in the morning and the other 1 hour or so prior to work out with a couple of bananas and it seemed to really work for me.
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    Derp- just did a quick skim of the post and didnt even notice the suggested dosage.

    Any feedback on nolva vs clomid? Been kind of torn on that since I went with Purity but they took down their clomid so i just snatched up the nolva.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltan View Post
    Derp- just did a quick skim of the post and didnt even notice the suggested dosage.

    Any feedback on nolva vs clomid? Been kind of torn on that since I went with Purity but they took down their clomid so i just snatched up the nolva.
    No worries I figured you didnt see it.
    I really dont have a ton of knowledge on serms I am on TRT so I dont use them I am sure there plenty of folks on here that would be glad to help you out.

    I sent you a PM
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    I wouldn't cut out 1000 calories in your pct bro. Calculate your new maintenance calories with your new weight then stay at that number. U want to solidify those gains bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I wouldn't cut out 1000 calories in your pct bro. Calculate your new maintenance calories with your new weight then stay at that number. U want to solidify those gains bro.
    Fair and easy enough, ill push it hard.

    Will post progress kind of weekly, dont see a need to do a daily log but incoming results fellas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltan View Post

    Fair and easy enough, ill push it hard.

    Will post progress kind of weekly, dont see a need to do a daily log but incoming results fellas!
    Sounds good broski. Tear that sh*t up!
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    So I'm about a week in, hitting every workout really hard and pushing to failure with every set. Does msten accelerate the recovery greatly? I'm not getting any soreness in the days preceeding my workouts at all. I'm getting huge pumps and everything it's just confusing me a little? Other than that I had the back pumps and the taurine did help, thanks for the advice on that! Had such a good night sleep that I didn't want to get out of bed the first 2 mornings, waking up is easier now. Love the hunger, makes taking down all the meals really easy! Did chest last night, put 20 extra lbs up with just as many reps as my previous week off cycle.
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    im on Msten aswell, and i have noticed that i dont get sore at all.
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    Heightened recovery is expected.
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    That's a relief I was afraid for whatever reason I was not working it hard enough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltan View Post
    That's a relief I was afraid for whatever reason I was not working it hard enough!
    U can always train even harder lol
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    Shooooot... This much is true, a very welcomed soreness showed up in my chest this evening, very welcomed! Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoltan View Post
    Shooooot... This much is true, a very welcomed soreness showed up in my chest this evening, very welcomed! Lol
    That's what I'm talking about bro! F*ck sh*t up!!!
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    Hey bro, so what have you noticed thus far with the M-sten other that less soreness? Interested in your progress.
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    Well, yesterday was completion of week 1. So far the only sides have been the back pumps, some mild headaches during the first 3 days, and heartburn/indigestion, im taking 1.5g of taurine in the morning and a half hr pre workout and it doesnt bother me. Tums helps the heartburn. My appetite is kind of dragging and im having to force the food at times. Up 3 lbs, muscles are fuller all day long. I havent noticed a ton of energy during workouts, and my first 2 workouts i actually had very little drive during the workouts but i still gave it my all and fought through it.

    It would seem that for most, the second week is when it really comes on strong so im stoaked to crank this into high gear.
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    Stick with it and get that food down. I know that it can be hard to eat on oral cycles sometimes but force it down and hit it hard and will be pleased in the end. Another thing I would start doing is taking a full 2g of the taurine before working out. That weight you added last week is your higher levels of glycogen stores in your muscle as well as some extra water. Next week you will start packing on the new muscle and thats when it really gets fun.
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    Subbed... Thinking of running MSten for my next cycle.

    I know there are a few methyl stens out there... OP, what brand you using? IML?
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    im late! but i have a bottle of msten at home, was gonna run it at the end of this year or early next year as i already have my summer cycle planned!
    looking forward to your results!
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    IML brand yup
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    Quote Originally Posted by smshannon001 View Post
    im late! but i have a bottle of msten at home, was gonna run it at the end of this year or early next year as i already have my summer cycle planned!
    looking forward to your results!
    You could integrate the msten into your summer cycle and log it for us all? What does your summer cycle consist of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alasel View Post
    You could integrate the msten into your summer cycle and log it for us all? What does your summer cycle consist of?
    already got a pretty full cycle planned.. will be starting in about 2 weeks time

    check out my "pre cycle thread" in my signature

    ill be making a new log for the actual cycle, including what i train each day (i should have time to detail the reps/weights/exercises)
    hopefully i have time to give you guys a few days of my usual diet as well and let ya in on any changes
    should be fun anyway

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    Looks like its the avdanced cycle support that is giving me the indigestion, either way a couple tums about an hr after i take it and im just fine
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