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    best non methyl to add?


    I am 2.5 weeks into mechabol @ 100mg and was thinking of adding a non methyl that would compliment the mecha. I am already taking TRT test cyp @ 100mg every 3 days as well and just looking for some to add for the last 3.5 weeks. I am also thinking of bumping the mecha up to 125 for remainder of cycle.

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    Forerunner labs alpha mass, 2 bottles, 12 caps e/d

    1dhea =1test
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    thanks but I am not really wanting to spend quite that much on a 1-dhea product.
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    What are your results on Mechabol so far?..all good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen View Post
    What are your results on Mechabol so far?..all good?
    Well so far I am up about 5 lbs even though I am running on a somewhat reduced calorie diet. My libido is great and my overall sense of well being is great on Mecha. I cannot find one negative side @100mg per day so I am going to bump it to 125 for the remainder of cycle. My strength increase has been pretty good not as good as M-sten but pretty good. I have to say that so far i really like mechabol its not gonna put 20lbs on you but i would say that 10-12 with limited sides is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atl3128 View Post
    thanks but I am not really wanting to spend quite that much on a 1-dhea product.
    Only non methyl worthspending money on besides 4dhea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Only non methyl worthspending money on besides 4dhea.
    I guess you have never ran trest/ment ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Only non methyl worthspending money on besides 4dhea.
    What about something like x-trenavar or Methoxy-25 (max-lmg clone) or Stano? I am kinda leaning towards Stano because I like lean gains and inhanced libido!
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    Could add bulk-up from andro factory
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post

    I guess you have never ran trest/ment ?
    Wuts that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by atl3128 View Post

    What about something like x-trenavar or Methoxy-25 (max-lmg clone) or Stano? I am kinda leaning towards Stano because I like lean gains and inhanced libido!
    Xtren needs to be ran at high dosages, 2 bottles of any trenadione clone is not enough. It's expensive, and weak.

    Max lmg and menadione are both methylated.

    Ment is 7a methyl, lmg is 18 methyl. You asked for non methyls.

    When I beta tested mentabolan for phf, I found it to be one of the best pro hormones I've ran in a while. Much more so than trenavar.

    Based off the compounds your using, is why I recommended a ph to 1test, I thought you want to add more to your cycle, not just spend money on something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    Xtren needs to be ran at high dosages, 2 bottles of any trenadione clone is not enough. It's expensive, and weak.

    Max lmg and menadione are both methylated.

    Ment is 7a methyl, lmg is 18 methyl. You asked for non methyls.

    When I beta tested mentabolan for phf, I found it to be one of the best pro hormones I've ran in a while. Much more so than trenavar.

    Based off the compounds your using, is why I recommended a ph to 1test, I thought you want to add more to your cycle, not just spend money on something.
    I dont mind the 1 test I just didnt want to spend $100+ doesnt it bloat a little?

    What about stano at like 600-800mg per day?

    I thought the methoxy-25 wasn't methylated (13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one)
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    13b ethyl=18 methyl stano at those dosages sounds fine for what you seem to be wanting.
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    So the 13 ethyl means its methylated? Because they are not marketed as such are they as hep toxic as 17a methyl.

    What type of gains should I expect from the stano and is a dose of 600-800 enough?
    Thanks
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    it doesn't seem to be as hepatotoxic as 17a methyl. I wouldn't expect any gains from pro dht, dry, harden up, feel more manly maybe, but gaining, I wouldn't expect it.
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    Yeah I think that's mainly what I am looking for getting pretty decent gains from test and mecha but could use a little boost in the motivation department sometimes so this should help with that right? What dose is best 600-800
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    Trestobol/Ment is not methylated (not like epi, holo, ect.). I works fast and the side effects are great (wood wood wood). You just need to run an AI with it. I'm telling ya this stuff is great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post
    Trestobol/Ment is not methylated (not like epi, holo, ect.). I works fast and the side effects are great (wood wood wood). You just need to run an AI with it. I'm telling ya this stuff is great!
    I did research on this stuff and I'm definitely gonna run it next cycle with a methyl. Probably lgi tvar 15 @ 80mg+/day (apparently the conversion to Tren is lower than the actual dose you take. Can anyone attest to this? I've read 100mg trenavar is approx 30-40mg Tren ace)
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    Quote Originally Posted by atl3128 View Post
    Yeah I think that's mainly what I am looking for getting pretty decent gains from test and mecha but could use a little boost in the motivation department sometimes so this should help with that right? What dose is best 600-800
    800-1000
    Quote Originally Posted by thehogsters View Post
    Trestobol/Ment is not methylated (not like epi, holo, ect.). I works fast and the side effects are great (wood wood wood). You just need to run an AI with it. I'm telling ya this stuff is great!
    I haven't ran 7a methyl nor test, just 7a methyl nor androstenedione, and it was nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by JD284 View Post
    I did research on this stuff and I'm definitely gonna run it next cycle with a methyl. Probably lgi tvar 15 @ 80mg+/day (apparently the conversion to Tren is lower than the actual dose you take. Can anyone attest to this? I've read 100mg trenavar is approx 30-40mg Tren ace)
    you are confusing trenadione with mentadione
    trenadione (trenavar, tvar, trenbolone pro hormone) isn't that great. 7a methyl nor androstenedione was way way better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    800-1000
    I haven't ran 7a methyl nor test, just 7a methyl nor androstenedione, and it was nice.


    you are confusing trenadione with mentadione
    trenadione (trenavar, tvar, trenbolone pro hormone) isn't that great. 7a methyl nor androstenedione was way way better.
    ahh gotcha. aka MENT / Mentabolan?
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    I think it would be useful to build a list here of non methyl stackers.
    Can anyone provide experiences / dosages with any of the following?




    AF Bulk Up - dose higher than typical DHEA product
    AF P Bold
    Trenavar/LGI TVar15 - high doses, minimum 100mg/ day
    Trenazone
    1DHEA - LG M1D, LG Sciences: 1-ANDROSTENOLONE
    4DHEA - AMS 4-Andro RDe
    Trestobol/Mentabolan
    FL Alpha Mass/ Alpha Bulk
    Stano



    This is all I can find in this thread and by personal research.


    How would stacking AF Bulk Up/4DHEA product with Anavar? Would that almost act like a test base? I'm guessing you would have to double dose 4DHEA to truly increase levels comparable to test? I know there is no true substitute for the real thing - just wondering if anyone has tried this.
    I ran Anavar solo - my peak was week 3 and 4, and then I think I was being suppressed and the var dosage wasnt
    high enough. Next time I will run a non methyl alongside or test with it.


    Thanks guys.
  

  
 

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