Oral Anabolics and GI Distress

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  1. Bile is produced in the liver by pulling cholesterol out of the blood. The gallbladder is the storage tank for bile. When you eat the gallbladder will contract and squeeze bile into the intestine for digestion.

    Back on subject, I would have mentioned gallbladder and or liver, but since you have had tests it doesn't make sense. I would ask are you on any SSRI's and drinking alcohol while taking them? That will cause the symptoms you are describing also. SSRI's can cause stomach issues even without alcohol.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by crgsander View Post
    Bile is produced in the liver by pulling cholesterol out of the blood. The gallbladder is the storage tank for bile. When you eat the gallbladder will contract and squeeze bile into the intestine for digestion.
    Oops my bad, thanks.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by crgsander View Post
    Bile is produced in the liver by pulling cholesterol out of the blood. The gallbladder is the storage tank for bile. When you eat the gallbladder will contract and squeeze bile into the intestine for digestion.
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    and this is why i phrased my statement as a question!!

    thx
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    and this is why i phrased my statement as a question!!thx
    You are correct that with AAS use, the bile ducts in the liver will start to clog, so to speak, and the build up becomes very unhealthy for the liver.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by crgsander View Post
    Back on subject, I would have mentioned gallbladder and or liver, but since you have had tests it doesn't make sense. I would ask are you on any SSRI's and drinking alcohol while taking them? That will cause the symptoms you are describing also. SSRI's can cause stomach issues even without alcohol.
    I don't think the op stated if bloodtests were done on cycle or after.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Bigcountry08 View Post
    I would cut out all dairy, and bread people complain about it at first but once you start you really start to realize how little you miss it. I used to drink a gallon of milk ever two days, and every day I felt like crap while at the gym. I chalked it up as stims and supps causing gas and stomach aches, but now I feel great every day focused on my training and not holding gas in on this lift cause of the chick right behind me.

    Also I don't really see ph/sd'd being the issue I think it's diet over all. How most of us eat isn't how are bodies were designed to eat. Most lifters eat crap loads of protein ( my self included) tons of processed foods, and poor quality/ small amounts of veg. All this reeks havoc on our bodies. I now have acid reflux because how I ate when I was younger, but now that I have changed my diet I have it for the most part under control.

    Enough rambling though if I were you I would try cutting out all dairy, bread and processes food from your diet. If within a month or two you don't notice anything by all means switch back but I would almost guarantee you will notice a difference.
    I don't think it can be solely diet related and has moe to do with the oral ph/ds since on cycle is the only time it happens. Also I almost never drink milk products or eat bread except for maybe one cheat meal a week.

  7. its possible that some steroids have anti-microbial effects of some sort. I have seen patents on steroids which are anabolic and are stated to have such activities. thats kind of a long shot explanation but its not unfeasible. theory being they would disrupt intestinal flora
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    its possible that some steroids have anti-microbial effects of some sort. I have seen patents on steroids which are anabolic and are stated to have such activities. thats kind of a long shot explanation but its not unfeasible. theory being they would disrupt intestinal flora
    Lol, I seem to remember a csi episode where a guy was taking steroids. he came into contact with a bacteria that ate bone and they said the roids he took destroyed his immune system. So his body couldn't fight back. If I remember correctly he just got punched like once in the face and his head caved in.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by SPS View Post
    I don't think the op stated if bloodtests were done on cycle or after.
    Blood test were done post cycle. Have had multiple blood test (did one while one) and everything is generally within range.

    I do notice with fatty foods it is much worse, but that is expected. I dont believe it is necessary bile related.. when you have a fatty meal it will naturally sit in your stomach for a longer period of time, which will make the bloating issues worse.

    The frequent belching is the worse.. my heart rate is constantly elevated until i belch out my meal (this can take hours sometimes).

    Not an alcoholic.. drink in moderation socially, so maybe 1-2 times a week.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    lol, so his problem may be that he's a depressed alcoholic?
    It sounds kind of funny when you say it! Lol
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Duywayne View Post
    Blood test were done post cycle. Have had multiple blood test (did one while one) and everything is generally within range.

    I do notice with fatty foods it is much worse, but that is expected. I dont believe it is necessary bile related.. when you have a fatty meal it will naturally sit in your stomach for a longer period of time, which will make the bloating issues worse.

    The frequent belching is the worse.. my heart rate is constantly elevated until i belch out my meal (this can take hours sometimes).

    Not an alcoholic.. drink in moderation socially, so maybe 1-2 times a week.
    I know you disagree, but this really does sound like bile issues. You could have gall stones, did they check your gallbladder for those? A poorly functioning gallbladder also causes these symptoms.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by crgsander View Post
    I know you disagree, but this really does sound like bile issues. You could have gall stones, did they check your gallbladder for those? A poorly functioning gallbladder also causes these symptoms.
    My doc is a GI & Liver specialist. He has not mentioned anything of gallstones however i will bring it up to him next appt. Thanks for the feedback!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bigcountry08 View Post
    Lol, I seem to remember a csi episode where a guy was taking steroids. he came into contact with a bacteria that ate bone and they said the roids he took destroyed his immune system. So his body couldn't fight back. If I remember correctly he just got punched like once in the face and his head caved in.

    sounds like corticosteroids
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Duywayne View Post
    Blood test were done post cycle. Have had multiple blood test (did one while one) and everything is generally within range.I do notice with fatty foods it is much worse, but that is expected. I dont believe it is necessary bile related.. when you have a fatty meal it will naturally sit in your stomach for a longer period of time, which will make the bloating issues worse.The frequent belching is the worse.. my heart rate is constantly elevated until i belch out my meal (this can take hours sometimes).Not an alcoholic.. drink in moderation socially, so maybe 1-2 times a week.
    do u ever get hiccups
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    do u ever get hiccups
    Very very rarely

  16. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post

    maybe its from swallowing semen?
    Lol. Seamen
  

  
 

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