First Cycle. Would appreciate your input.
- 07-02-2013, 04:14 PM
- 07-02-2013, 05:50 PM
- 07-08-2013, 01:57 PM
What dosages of TBol or Var would you guys recommend with a Test E cycle? I'm not familiar with those compounds.
07-08-2013, 02:17 PM
I ran test e at 500mg wk kicked off with dbol at 50-60mg ed with no ai. I had no probs at all(maybe im just lucky) although i would def suggest an ai. I am currently running same cycle with 400mg deca added,but i am using aromasin with great results. I love dbol and have never had any sides, but my diet is also in check, so good luck with your cycle.
07-08-2013, 02:50 PM
07-08-2013, 04:26 PM
I know I'm asking a lot of questions and I appreciate you guys bearning with me. I probably going to order everything this weekend and want to make sure I have everything right before I do.
1. Would Aromasin be a good sub for Arimidex? If so, would I use the same dosage? Reason being, the source I'm going to use doesn't sell Adex but does sell Aromasin.
2. Should I run HCG with this cycle? If so, how much and how often?
3. Would my needs be better suited with Test C or P?
4. If I run Tbol or Var, would I even need an AI during the cycle?
07-08-2013, 04:28 PM
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07-08-2013, 04:39 PM
07-11-2013, 03:29 PM
I decided to shorten the cycle since it's my first and also add HCG and a small Dbol kicker. Let me know if this looks good.
12 week cycle:
Test E @ 400mg/week (200mg twice a week)
Dbol @ 30mg ED (1-4)
On cycle supps: (weeks)
CEL Cycle Assist (1-20)
fish oil (ED)
Exemestane .5mg EOD (1-14)
HCG 500iu E5D (1-14)
Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25 (15-20)
PES Erase 1/2/2/3/2/1 (15-20)
Reduce XT 2/2/2/2/2/2 (15-20)
07-11-2013, 05:01 PM
I'd use Aromasin over Erase in pct at 25/25/12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25. And I'd throw in DAA at 3g the whole pct.
07-11-2013, 06:34 PM
It looks good bro.Originally Posted by IPOM
2 things, like the Doc said - you may want an AI in pct. Or what I often do is continue my AI halfway through my PCT (slow taper).
The other is I think its more effective tapering the clomid a little more if possible.
Or if you can't break the tabs down, go with EOD towards the end since it has a long half life.
07-11-2013, 10:45 PM
Thanks everyone! You guys have been a great help and I'm now confident to start my cycle. I'm sure ill learn a lot more once I run it.
07-12-2013, 02:25 AM
07-12-2013, 09:46 AM
"I like Arimidex during the cycle (in fact, consider use of an AI while taking aromatisables a necessity) but it ABSOLUTELY should not be used post cycle (even though it has been shown to increase LH production) because the risk of driving estrogen too low, and therefore further damaging an already compromised Lipid Profile, is too great (this also drives libido back into the ground—and we don’t want that, do we?)."
07-12-2013, 10:24 AM
07-12-2013, 12:13 PM
I cant speak for erase....never tried it-
but everything else looks good- I would prefer to take the inhibit throughout the entire duration of the the cycle- including pct-just my .02 worth though-most people would choose to disagree with me but its always better to be safe than sorry
also-I hate adex- I always reccomend exemestane for an AI on any cycle to prevent rebound and its much more effective than adex.
I would suggest that that you do 25 mgs/day of exemestane if you choose to go with your dbol kicker- and then after your off the dbol drop the dosage to 12.5 mgs a day.
wouldnt be a bad idea to throw in some hCG to stave off any testicular atrophy and hasten your recovery during PCT.
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