Gyno or just chest fat? (pics)
- 05-31-2013, 09:17 PM
- 05-31-2013, 09:45 PM
My raloxifene came as a powder and has to be reconstituted with water.
It says to use distilled water, but does it really matter if I use spring water?
05-31-2013, 11:21 PM
05-31-2013, 11:29 PM
It's definetly going down with just nolva and formestane. Gonna hop on PCT in about 5 days, I'll post pics and you guys can evaluate but the swelling has really gone down.
Will most likely be using the ralox + clomid. I don't think letrozol will be necessary, but I do have it on hand now.
05-31-2013, 11:52 PM
06-01-2013, 09:41 AM
Erase pro: 0/0/1/1/1/1 capsule
DAA @ 6g/day + some random test booster
06-01-2013, 09:45 AM
06-01-2013, 10:08 AM
06-01-2013, 10:09 AM
06-01-2013, 10:47 AM
06-01-2013, 03:43 PM
Managing gyno is just part of the game; it's not something you beat so much as just control....& if it ever gets too out of hand out-patient surgery is right around the corner. Problem solved.
Don't let this consume you, you look fine anyway. Just run the SERM & ai as necessary, stay on top of it, and bust the letro as long as needed if it gets out of contro evenl after those, & remember to run exemestane behind it or something that's also suicidal to prevent rebound.
06-01-2013, 10:37 PM
Okay I've learned something interesting about both clomid and tamoxifen.
The half life is between 5 to 7 days. So, apparently tapering off isn't that important because upon ceasing use it kind of tapers off itself.
However raloxifene is different with a half life of roughly 1 day.
06-02-2013, 10:35 AM
Also I wonder if this is the final clue that my test was in fact legit.
I hardly gained any weight on this cycle but strength and endurance went way up. Now what I'm off, libido has tanked as well.
It's a crap shoot without bloods, but I'd love a legit domestic source. I may have to try some of this guys D-bol and then I'll know for sure, lol.
06-04-2013, 10:16 AM
Lol youll be able to tell if its legit or not. One thing yhat sucks about pre existing gyno is if you have a lump that stays with you (like you never took care of it) it comes out more when your on cycle.
I have pre existing gyno from the past cycles. And now when i run something like test my
Old gyno comes back and flares up. Gets really sensitive.
Just tellin you to def take care of that now. You dont want this annoying issue. It kind of ruins the cycle cause your so worried about it. I just ran out of letro so i overnighted more. Should have it thusday. Im gonna blast 2.5 a day for 2 weeks
06-04-2013, 10:19 AM
YOUR FACE IS GONE!
In all seriousness it's gyno
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06-06-2013, 08:21 PM
Okay so about 1 week with nolva and formestane. Swelling has gone down by 70% I would guess.
God I look so fat in those pics . Will NEVER cut until 195 though.
Anyway, here's my problem. I don't think I've been affected aesthetically, but I can still feel a small amount of soft tissue behind my right nipple. What it always there, even before the cycle? I really have no idea.
Really leaning against letrozole, and just want to jump on a normal PCT.
06-06-2013, 08:25 PM
I was feeling around yesterday, all my old lil gyno pebbles & masses. I've never even been as lean as I am now (15-16%) and always had a predisposition for moobs, so it's impossible to know if it's pubertal gyno or stuff from my first 2 cycles, which were run without AI's. But they don't look out of shape, actually better than ever since my bf is better, so who cares? I have old gyno, always will til surgery someday maybe, but if it isn't sensitve, isn't noticeable or change the shape at all who gives? Just something to watch when you go on & come off is all, no worries.
06-06-2013, 08:44 PM
I actually started my test cycle with an AI, but when I started feeling like I wasn't gaining, I completely dropped it. Then the gyno symptoms appeared right at the end in the 16th week.
From now on I will use a moderate AI dose on cycles with aromatizing compounds.
06-06-2013, 11:38 PM
Man ill be honest I used Letro at .5 and 1.25 doses before bed and had great results destroying a lump. As well as you have gotten rid of it already it may put the final nail in the coffin. Personally though it may be good to just continue running the protocol that's been working for a bit longer or just hop into pct. I'm glad to see how much the swelling has gone down bro.
07-11-2013, 12:44 AM
sorry to hijack thread, but i got mild gyno a few months ago after a PH cycle. I had to wait a couple of months before i could get letro and it worked to some extent but afterwards i tapered off and ran tamoxifen but must of got estro rebound because the right side lump grew.
I've heard people get results just running raloxifene so im going for broke and just going to go on raloxifene for a few months, but dont want to risk estro rebound so wondering if raloxifene causes estro rebound or if theres anything i need to take afterwards?
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