Epi Test Cyp FIRST CYCLE

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    Epi Test Cyp FIRST CYCLE


    back ground: I am 22 years old i have been lifting since high school but for the last 2 years i have been involved with crossfit(im a level 1 trainer). Right now im transitioning to powerlifting full time with some OLY lifts thrown in here and there, i plan on running Test Cyp for 12weeks and using Havoc as a jumpstart. I weigh 170 and would like to hit 190ish. The Arimidex and Nolva that i have is liquid that's why i have the dosing a little high, i would rather over does a little bit then under does. Questions, should i not run the epi? or should i run it for the last 6 weeks? also is 12weeks too short for the test cyp? and advice would be appreciated i dont plan on going on cycle until june.

    Current lifting stats
    Clean:265
    Jerk:240
    Snatch:205
    Deadlift:405
    Squat:365
    Bench:245

    Week 1
    Test Cyp 200mg Mon/Thursday
    Havoc 20mg Ed
    Arimidex .5mg Eod

    Week 2
    Test Cyp 200mg Mon/Thursday
    Havoc 30mg Ed
    Arimidex .5mg Eod

    Week 3-6
    Test Cyp 200mg Mon/Thursday
    Havoc 40mg Ed
    Arimidex .5mg Eod

    Week 7-12
    Test Cyp 200mg Mon/Thursday
    Arimidex .5mg Eod

    Weeks 13-14
    Arimidex .5mg Eod

    Weeks 15-16
    Arimidex .5mg Eod
    Nolva 40mg Ed

    Weeks 17-20
    Nolva 20mg Ed

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    Is this your first cycle
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    Just curious what is your bf? I would run it the first 6 weeks
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    Actually man don't run the epi, I compete(not pro, just local events) and I have run epi and it can be a bitch on the joints. Hdrol max lmg would be better choices. Normally I would say you are too young, as someone who started at your age I wish I would have waited, but coming in with a cycle laid out like that it is clear you have done your research and know the risks.
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    First injections i have run Dymethazine and SD
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    Quote Originally Posted by stamp_on_kids View Post
    Actually man don't run the epi, I compete(not pro, just local events) and I have run epi and it can be a bitch on the joints. Hdrol max lmg would be better choices. Normally I would say you are too young, as someone who started at your age I wish I would have waited, but coming in with a cycle laid out like that it is clear you have done your research and know the risks.
    Do you compete in power lifting or cross fit? and yeah right now my life is set up to where i can truly focus on the cycle it wont be like this again for 4 years, if i do run the epi and say 2 weeks in i cant handle the joint problems can i just stop taking it? also i have a buddy who is telling me to run clomid on top of the nolvadex at 50mg ed for the entire pct is that overkill?
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    You could run the test c 16 weeks I don't like epi so that's on you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    You could run the test c 16 weeks I don't like epi so that's on you
    it seems like a love it or hate it thing with epi, im gonna give it shot i got plenty of glucosamine chonndroitin and msm.
    but like i just mentioned i have been told i should change pct to Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20 clomid 50/50/50/50/50/50 thats seems like a lot... any input?
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    Quote Originally Posted by liftstrong View Post

    it seems like a love it or hate it thing with epi, im gonna give it shot i got plenty of glucosamine chonndroitin and msm.
    but like i just mentioned i have been told i should change pct to Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20 clomid 50/50/50/50/50/50 thats seems like a lot... any input?
    I always only run one serm but a lot of people run both

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    50/50/25/25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp859 View Post
    Clomid
    50/50/25/25
    This FTW. Plus an ai, daa, whatever other goodies float your boat. I meant powerlifting, especially going heavy on bench I could feel it in my elbows,.other than that epi is a great lean mass builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by stamp_on_kids View Post

    This FTW. Plus an ai, daa, whatever other goodies float your boat. I meant powerlifting, especially going heavy on bench I could feel it in my elbows,.other than that epi is a great lean mass builder
    How high did you run the epi??
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