Test is best
- 12-22-2004, 01:01 PM
Test is best
I am starting my first real steroid cycle next month of test enanthate at 500mg a week for 10 weeks. Should it be frontloaded and what pin sizes should I use for draw and inject? twice a week injections right? Is there a real difference between once a twice a week injections with a slow ester?
- 12-22-2004, 01:20 PM
no frontload. 23g 1-1/2 needles do it for me. get em from www.getpinz.com
If you want to shoot 2x a week that's fine. 1x a week is also doable. the half life is 10.5 days, which means in 10.5 days you will have 1/2 of what you injected in you in the first place available. good luck with it, come back if you've got some q's.
- 12-22-2004, 01:24 PM
are you going to stack w/ anything?
12-22-2004, 01:43 PM
Someone told me to that they use 20g to draw with and 23g or 25g to inject. I have not started my first cycle yet but soon!Originally Posted by chasec
12-22-2004, 01:47 PM
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drawing with 20 gauges are much easier and shooting with a 25 is next to painless. you can get by with 23's all around, but it takes forever to draw, sometimes having to heat the oil up first. and most prefer to change the needle after drawing anyway as it dulls the needle with you poke it into the vial through the rubber stopper. in conclusion, that's why i prefer drawing with 20's, and shooting with 25's.Originally Posted by Chemist63
12-22-2004, 03:31 PM
i draw with 23 and shoot with 25.
12-22-2004, 04:22 PM
I was thinking about some dbol for 4 weeks but I haven't decided yet.Originally Posted by kmac6225
12-23-2004, 01:03 PM
I got way more out of the first 4 weeks of dbol than I did out of the whole rest of my last cycle.
My oils were also underdosed though (at least it seemed like it).
12-23-2004, 01:13 PM
draw 20g shoot 25g
12-23-2004, 02:58 PM
why are you guys to opposed to frontloading the test? i happen to think its a very good idea
12-23-2004, 07:37 PM
I draw with 20g and shoot with 23g. I like shooting twice a week to keep more stable blood levels. I would ad dbol or prop in the begining.
12-23-2004, 09:46 PM
Might be a good reason to run short blasting cyclesOriginally Posted by exnihilo
12-24-2004, 01:18 AM
well it's either gonna be dbol or tren. I get fat easy so maybe tren will keep me leaner. Still checking it out.
12-26-2004, 04:41 PM
Haha. You have a good memoryOriginally Posted by jminis
I'm gonna brew up some tren a. from cow pellets for my next cycle, and switch "brands" of test (probably from golden triangle to ICN) and see how a longer cycle with top quality gear does me. If it still doesn't pan out, I'll probably just start using dbol or drol (depending on how well I respond to drol when I try it) to peak for meets - short blasting cycles as it were
The fat burning effect of tren was quite pronounced even at what was probably somewhere around half dosage or even less (based on discussion with two friends who ran the same gear), I'm all flittery at the thought of bumping from what was probably the equivalent of about 50mg eod to 75-100mg ed. ICN has been good to some friends of mine as well, and one of my buddies noticed a pronounced difference switching from golden triangle to ICN halfway through his cycle.
Between some drol/tren/test, some heavy eating and lots of hard training I hope to pack on enough mass to get into the superheavies, so I'm not in the same class as one of my lifting partners - ya know, don't want people on the same team competing... The fact that he holds a world record has nothing to do with it
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