Test E & Deca help
- 04-01-2013, 05:18 AM
I'm starting my first 12 week Test E & Deca Cycle Today and need your advise. After lots of confusion, lots of different advices I have finally made up my mind regarding the length of the cycle and the dosage so please leave this part out of the dsicussion.
Week 1 -12 - Test E 250mg E/W
Week 1 - 10 - Deca 100mg E/W
Week 12- 100mg Clomid E/D
Week 13 - 50mg Clomid E/D
Week 14 - 50mg Clomid E/D
1. Can i mix Test E and Deca in one pin or should to pin it on different days like Mon- Test E - Thu - Deca?
2. Is it ok ok to warm it up in a water or some other way. Some people say that its not good to use a warm water and its better to keep the ampule in your mouth for 20 mins, but i dont think it makes any sense.
3. Is it ok to use Creatine and PW while on cycle?
4. Is it enough to workout 4 times a week/ 2hr per workout? Is the cardio necessary ?
5. Clomid for PCT or is there anything better?
Thanks in advance and i'm looking forward for your replies.
- 04-01-2013, 01:14 PM
I'm going to stop u right here. 10 weeks is border like pointless. Fix that then will talk about everything elseChristopher
- 04-01-2013, 02:30 PM
04-01-2013, 11:23 PM
ok, deca needs 12 weeks and then three weeks after to clear the ester. so it would need to be 12weeks of deca and 15-16 weeks of test. deca really starts working at week 6-7 so if your only doing 10 weeks its only been running strong for a few weeks. im currently on a 15 week deca 20 week test blast. time lengths is important to get the results from certain compounds
04-02-2013, 01:14 AM
Yeah this is good advice here. I am on TRT so I'm doing the TRT test (100 something per week) and 300mg deca per week for 12 weeks each (I am on TRT so the test is 24/7 365 of course lol). Also, at week 4 I am going to start the SD Beast at 20mg per day for 6 weeks (weeks 4-9) to sort of coincide with the beginning and middle of the deca kicking in...then back to just deca and test for the final 3 weeks. Kinda weird, but I will be adding much more volume once on the SD (as well as calories) and I am going moderate right now for the first 3-4 weeks while the deca builds up. first and last 3 weeks will be less volume and less calories....more recomp style. But moral to the story is that run the deca 12 weeks.
04-02-2013, 01:00 PM
You said not to talk about your dosage but theyre stupid low. I dont see much of any gains in your foreseeable future
04-02-2013, 03:25 PM
04-02-2013, 03:39 PM
Way way too low on both test and deca. Deca should be run @400/week for a first timer. Test would be good at 500. And I agree, with all due respect good luck getting anabolic results at that dose.
04-02-2013, 04:05 PM
04-02-2013, 04:19 PM
04-02-2013, 04:41 PM
04-02-2013, 05:44 PM
I don't care about the dose, low or high u'll get some results ether way. But u'll get nothing if u run it to short. If u are going to run it low I would use more test than deca. So if ur dead set on it. Test 300mg and deca 200. Something to that effect. Other wise u will most likly run in to ED issues.
04-03-2013, 09:39 AM
You guys discussed everything except the questions I asked and I was wondering about like:
If I could mix deca & test in one pin.
If I could user the water to warm up the ampules.
Is it ok to use clomid for pct or I need something else. But those things aside. Now the thing worries me much more is they I feel after the first pin.
I did my first shot yesterday by mixing both in one pin, buy I feel kind of weird like I never felt before:
Yesterday after the shot I felt tired, no energy, no appetite and my head was like spinning a little bit.
At the gym I could hardly workout, couldn't lift my regular weights, no energy at all even though I took jack3d and concrete b4 workout.
I am always full of energy, I always workout 2 hour + and I hardly get tired.
Same thing today, I felt tired, lack of energy, little anxiety and my muscle hurt when I work out.
Plus the area I did my shot really hurts ( right glut.
I'm really worried
04-03-2013, 09:41 AM
04-03-2013, 10:28 AM
Also not sure if ur going to plan on using hcg but u should since ur using deca. I do will al my deca cycles begin week 5. 250iu 2x a week, they day before your pin. Unless u want ur nuts to turn into raisins. Discontinue hcg last week of cycle before pct.
My go to pct:
DAA 3g daily
Lean Extreme-help control cortisol
Also not sure if u mentioned an AI. But should take it alllll the way through pct.
04-03-2013, 10:38 AM
Warm the bottles by rolling them in your hand but I never warm mine. And as far as the pain in your a**. Get used to it. Your doing an intramuscular injection. Try quads next time since u sit on your butt it may bother it more. But post injection pain (PIP) is normal. Sometimes I'm sore the next day or two AND sometimes I don't feel a thing. You'll see.
And u shoulda done more research before starting but your lucky there are some good guys on here to guide you through this. DON'T START PCT UNTIL 2 WEEKS AFTER YOUR LAST PIN. So if your doing a 12 week cycle pct begins week 14!!!!!!
And yes creatine is fine. More potent the better!
Hope I covered everything bro. Take every word I said serious I have plenty of experience with test/deca cycles. Actually if you would like check my log out... I'm using deca and I'm in week 6. "Anabolic Dreams".
04-03-2013, 12:35 PM
04-03-2013, 12:38 PM
04-03-2013, 01:12 PM
I dont kniw What's "Al" bro ? You mentioned that I should take it all the way trough pct.
04-03-2013, 01:17 PM
04-03-2013, 02:01 PM
Yes, I've heard about it, but was not sure if I needed one. I'll try to get one tomorrow if I can. I'm not in NY right now, I'm in Eastern Europe and its not easy to get stuff here. Can you please tell me the dosage that should take and how often. Thanks a lot again for your help!
04-03-2013, 02:05 PM
Exemestane may be to strong I'm thinking. Hopefully some others will chime in here as I have never used at these doses. Google is your best friend btw. Kinda see what others are doing that way. Just another source of info other than these forums.
04-03-2013, 02:06 PM
04-03-2013, 02:12 PM
04-03-2013, 02:21 PM
btw, if you don't take adequate amounts of these anabolics? you are not going to see any positive effects, and your other questions don't matter. Just something to think about there in regards to us not answering the other questions. Our initial responses were the important information to understand and implement before even addressing the ancillaries etc. But at 250mg per week? I'd play it by ear and see if you bloat or feel gyno coming on and have it ready. or just take .25 EOD to start.
04-03-2013, 02:33 PM
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