difference between DHEA and conversion to DHEA

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by 00S4Boy View Post
    Just to clarify normally 1-ad and 4-ad are in reference to diol compounds not olone thats dhea.

    IE

    1-DHEA/1-Andro = 1-Androstenolone(androst, 1-en, 3b-ol, 17-one) > 1-Androstenediol/1-AD(androst, 1-en, 3b,17b-diol) > 1-Testosterone(androst, 1-en, 17b-ol, 3-one)


    4-DHEA/4-Andro = 4-Androstenolone(androst, 4-en, 3b-ol, 17-one) > 1-Androstenediol/4-AD(androst, 4-en, 3b,17b-diol) > Testosterone(androst, 4-en, 17b-ol, 3-one)
    and my LG 1-andro converts into 1-test.
    and my 4-ad would convert into pure test which helps with mass and size along with my 1-test?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by boxcaracer View Post

    and my LG 1-andro converts into 1-test.
    and my 4-ad would convert into pure test which helps with mass and size along with my 1-test?
    Yes
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by boxcaracer View Post
    and my LG 1-andro converts into 1-test.
    and my 4-ad would convert into pure test which helps with mass and size along with my 1-test?
    1 test is more potent for gains then test, test will aid but mostly it will interact with androgen receptors that 1 test doesn't to help keep testosterone deficiency side effects at bay.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by 00S4Boy View Post
    1 test is more potent for gains then test, test will aid but mostly it will interact with androgen receptors that 1 test doesn't to help keep testosterone deficiency side effects at bay.
    So all in all, 1-andro with 4-ad or alpha mass...or stano-200?

    1-andro for leaning, and mass increase?
    and the 4-ad or others to help offset lethargy, and the side effects of 1-test? and of course increase mass.

    also is it okay to just run 1 bottle of AMS 4-ad (or iron mag, or any others if you know of) with my two bottles of 1-andro?
    i should i just bite the bullet and by two bottles?

  5. Do this. Take finaflex 1 alpha, and stack it with a 4dhea of your choice.. my preference is ironmaglabs 4andro rx. I would go as far to say 200mg of the 4dhea bare minimum to combat sides.

    As far as your estrogen conversion, the extra water doesn't hurt as bad as limp [email protected]#% and lethargy. Just my .02.

    If your that concerned with the estrogen take an A.I. on cycle such as erase/erase pro, atd, 6bromo or 6oxo.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by boxcaracer View Post
    So all in all, 1-andro with 4-ad or alpha mass...or stano-200?

    1-andro for leaning, and mass increase?
    and the 4-ad or others to help offset lethargy, and the side effects of 1-test? and of course increase mass.

    also is it okay to just run 1 bottle of AMS 4-ad (or iron mag, or any others if you know of) with my two bottles of 1-andro?
    i should i just bite the bullet and by two bottles?
    Forerunner labs

    5 Alpha - Prohormone to DHT
    Alphamass - Prohormone to enanthate estered 1-Test
    Alphabulk - Prohormone to enanthate estered Test

    AMS

    1-androsterone - Prohormone to 1-Test
    Epi-1-Test - Dual prohormone, one to 1-Test, other to DHT
    Decavol/SARM - Prohormone to Nandrolone(19Nortestosterone)
    Massdrops - Dual prohormone to 1-Test and Nandrolone
    4-AD - Prohormone to Test

    Finaflex

    550-XD - Prohormone to Nandrolone
    1-Andro - Prohormone to 1-Test
    1-alpha - Prohormone to enanthate estered 1-Test

    Was gonna do LG but just stay away their line is overpriced crap

    AndroFactory

    Most of their line are some progestins I don't know the nomenclature for.

    Bulk Up - Prohormone to Enanthate estered DHT(a-DHEA), Prohormone to Undecanoate estered DHT(b-DHEA), Prohormone Enanthate estered Testosterone(4-DHEA)
    Max Bulk - Prohormone to Enanthate estered Testosterone(4-DHEA), Prohormone to Enanthate estered Nandrolone(19Nor-4DHEA)

    1-Test is a mass building compound
    Test is also mass building but to a lesser degree and also helps with side effects of other hormones
    DHT is similar to Test but also can can effect your hairline
    Nandrolone is a mass builder but also will have progestin side's

  7. Did anyone see the OP is 5'11 and 155 pounds...

    OP you've got a whole lot more to figure out before you even consider researching hormonals let alone think about using them.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by NYiron View Post
    Did anyone see the OP is 5'11 and 155 pounds...

    OP you've got a whole lot more to figure out before you even consider researching hormonals let alone think about using them.
    Yeah, at the very end of my cut man.
    been lifting 3 years.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by boxcaracer

    Yeah, at the very end of my cut man.
    been lifting 3 years.
    155 at 511 at the end of a cut or not you've got a lot to figure out before even thinking about anything hormonal

  10. 5"11 at 155 is a waif man. You would be better off with steakadrol or potatodrol.

  11. How much you spending on supplements a month bud ??

    Quote Originally Posted by boxcaracer View Post
    I was looking into something like 1-AD or M1D Andro to stack with another PH.

    Based on my research it converts into DHEA....But if thats the case I cant buy DHEA for 10$ at my local store.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Fred Anthony View Post
    How much you spending on supplements a month bud ??
    Good question, I don't keep track....
    I keep protein powder at all times
    fish oil all times
    and BCAA product.

    So maybe around 100$?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by boxcaracer View Post
    Good question, I don't keep track....
    I keep protein powder at all times
    fish oil all times
    and BCAA product.

    So maybe around 100$?
    oh $100...but what is BCAA product ??
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