Safest AAS for Long-Term Use
- 03-22-2013, 11:02 AM
Safest AAS for Long-Term Use
When I was getting out of the military, my doctor said my testosterone was too low (around TT of 340). He prescribed me androgel (5g and 1%, equivalent to 5mg a day).
I'm looking for the safest way to do things. I don't want to cycle, instead preferring to be on a low dose of testosterone. I'm willing to do heart support, liver support, and anti-estrogens, if that makes things safer.
What do you guys recommend?
(I heard 2.5 mg of 5 mg of Oxandrolone might be good, for the rest of my life; along with heart support and liver support).
- 03-22-2013, 11:24 AM
There isn't any safe AAS for long term use, outside of staying with normal human level testosterone.
- 03-22-2013, 11:25 AM
03-22-2013, 11:35 AM
Test is safest, Anavar will suppress you even more, not a long time good idea.
03-22-2013, 11:49 AM
03-22-2013, 11:57 AM
1. It sounds like my dose is a good starting point, without too many side effects.
2. Yes, 1% of 5 grams is 50mg. But, due to the nature of the gel, only around 10% is absorbed. In that way, 10% of 50 mgs is 5mg of effective dosing.
03-22-2013, 12:00 PM
The whole point of starting and doing blood tests is that absorption varies hugely among individuals, from 10-20%. So it could be that you reach closer to 10mg a day, which is roughly what you'd call normal levels, or you may be at the lower end, where your doctor would need to raise doses. Similarly injected is usually in the 100-125 mg a week as the common range, partially to account for the ester weight and partially to account for the once a week dosing not going to too low a total level the day before next injection.
03-22-2013, 12:04 PM
Of course, I prefer to be as cautious as possible. Given that I was able to survive for 28 years without supplemental testosterone, and be at a relatively low rate of 340, giving me lower doses of testosterone seems like a good place to start.
That way, I have fewer chances of disrupting my body's own natural production.
03-22-2013, 12:19 PM
03-22-2013, 12:22 PM
Yes. But, I'm guessing taking a lot of testosterone (say 100 mgs a day) would shut you down quicker than taking 1 mg a day.
Are you saying that my FSH and LH will reduce down to absolutely 0?
03-22-2013, 12:41 PM
03-22-2013, 12:49 PM
Anything I can do to stop these bad things from happening?
03-22-2013, 12:56 PM
You should go read up in the anti aging forum, lots of good trt info and guys on it.who can give you insight
03-22-2013, 01:19 PM
03-23-2013, 05:43 AM
I've read that the average level for males is about 6mg/week. That wouldn't be "normal" though, just an average of all.
03-23-2013, 12:16 PM
In that case 5mgs/d x 7 = 35mg/w = ≤400 total testosterone.
If it were 10g (which most find more effective) that would be 10mgs/d x 7 = 70mg/w = ≤600 total testosterone.
Just what I have observed form many using 5g and 10g AndoGel.
I am moving this to anti-aging for more visibility.
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