msten cycle help for a noob

[lurker44]

so im going to be starting a cycle soon of assault labs msten. so far i have protex for on cycle and post cycle 3x for pct. i have some tomoxifen that i bought a while ago during an earlier failed cycle (my first -- halovar). it expired in 09/12. it has always been stored in my room so a constant comfortable temperature, is this still good to take or should i get some new stuff? from what iv read most pills will last long past the exp date but this is something i dont want to mess with. also would what woulb be best to stack with this? looking for mainly size gains. current stats are 69in, 162lb, DL 365, SQ 315, BP235.

 

[csa2179]

First nolva is still good. Second why did u bail on first cycle? 3rd no need to stack. I'd run the msten 6 weeks at 16-20mg. Maybe add in some type of dhea 4 product.

 

[lurker44]

thanks for the reply. i figured the tomox was still good just wanted to double check. the first cycle i was just at a tough spot in my life, ended up getting wisdom teeth removed and than the flu so it ended up being a waste of a 3 week cycle. so this is kinda like my first cycle, but not totally. what do you reco for a dhea product and when should i be taking it?

 

[csa2179]

There all good, I'd go with the cheapest one with the most dhea 4. I run test e year round so I don't keep up with the dhea's

 

[lurker44]

thanks sir, ill grab some dhea and i guess just run it throughout youre saying? stuff seems pretty cheap

 

[csa2179]

No not dhea, you want dhea 4. Dhea will convert to estro at a high rate. Dhea 4 is in products like dermacrine, alpha bulk...ect

 

[lurker44]

so is 4-dhea same as dhea 4?

 

[csa2179]

so is 4-dhea same as dhea 4?

Yeah, it's a metabolite of dhea.

 

[heavyiron]

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[csa2179]

Thanks I was waiting for some one to chime in