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Hey everyone I am going to start my second cycle. I used this product about 3 years ago and had good gains so I bought a few bottles and stashed them in the freezer for a later run. I am 31 weigh 198 and have been lifting for about 6 years on and off (more on than off) I will be running a 4 week cycle of generic labs x mass (estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione) I will be running this 2 weeks at 80mg and the other 2 weeks at 120. I ran the same dose and length last time and had very little sides but libido loss. I need help from you guys on building a good pct on hand I have Clomid, endosurge, erase, daa bulk powder and recourse I have no problem buying additional supps I just wanted to see what you guys would run for pct and at what dose. Also is there anything I can take on cycle to keep libido up a little bit? I was shut down pretty hard last time I ran this but I did bounce back rather quick and kept most of my gains. Thanks for the help and I am looking forward to run this again.
 

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I will also be taking multi vit, fish oils, vitex for prolactin, b6, Hawthorne berry, liver sup all while on cycle
 
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Think you have pretty much what you need (Clomid, Erase, and DAA)
 

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Awesome thanks how should I dose those I want to make sure I am going to recover quick
 

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Also should I use the endosurge? That stuff works great for me
 
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Not sure about the endosurge. But this should work

Clomid: 50/50/25/25
DAA: start on the last week of cycle and continue until gone
Erase: 0/0/3/3/2/2/1/1

Maybe some more expierenced guys can chime in but that should get you started
 
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What was your last PCT? You mentioned you've cycled before?
 

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Awesome thanks for your help. Last time I cycled I use to reversidol Clomid and fenugreek it was ok but libido loss was a bitch
 
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This one of my favorite supps of all time. It works. Keeping your gains is another matter.
 
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toss in some reduce xt and pct assist, then youll have no worries
 

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True that BBB any advice? Hoe should I dose the reduce xt? I really would like to keep as much as possible. Sure do hate seen them come and go
 
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3 caps e/d, starting last week of cycle, and continuing throughout pct.

1 bottle at 3 caps e/d will last you 4 weeks, I would want two, in order to run higher during the first 3 weeks, and then taper down.

run the serm at reg dosage 4 weeks of pct (clomid this means 50mg, nolva, this means 20mg), and start the ai during week 2 or 3 of pct running 4 weeks.
all in all, pct should be about 7-8 weeks.
with the new trend of using clomid at 25mg e/d to sky rocket test levels after pct, I may try running clomid at 25mg post the 4 weeks and continue on to see how this effects things.
 
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True that BBB any advice? Hoe should I dose the reduce xt? I really would like to keep as much as possible. Sure do hate seen them come and go
I've tried a lot of PCT's over the years. The best that I've found is a combination of Test Force 2 (the only DAA that works for me), COP (use PA's brand or mix with baking soda and make sure it fizzes), Creatine Mono (any brand), Beta alanine (any brand) and 6 Bromo. I sometimes add Diesel Test Hardcore for a little extra boost but it's not really necessary. I not only keep my gains but I can actually grow on this stack. I also keep my cycles short, 3 weeks. It limits shut down and makes keeping gains easier.
 

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Thanks bbb I will deff try this on another run sometime I might be putting this run on hold for a minute because I don't have enough Clomid I only have 14 doses at 50 mg. Any other options for this run with that amount of Clomid or should I just hold off until I can get more
 

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On deck I have 14 days of Clomid 2 bottles of endosurge bulk daa creatine mono one bottle of erase one bottle of reversitol and a bottle of recourse would be nice to run otc with Clomid on standby just not sure this compound is pretty strong. Anyone have any ideas
 
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I use Formestane for my AI. It's the best for a lot of reasons.
 

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