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    Hey all. Long time reader, first time poster. After extensive research and online reading,I have put together my first ever PH/PCT regimen but I would like some adviceon it from someone who has run one before, knows the science behind theproducts and knows how to balance them.
    I am 32 yrs old, 55, 170 lbswith 17 years of lifting experience and 20% bodyfat. My gaining workout I run is 1 bodypart a day,6 days a week with legs on Saturday and Sunday off; rotating exercises perbodypart per week with warmups plus 4 exercises per bodypart 4 sets with12/10/8/6 reps increasing weight. Abs 3times a week, 15 minute cardio before every workout. I am changing my diet and protein intake foreach stage accordingly.
    Here is my planned Pre/ON/PCT Cycle:
    ***Goal Gain 8 to12 lbs of muscle mass and drop bodyfat to 16 18%.
    PRECYCLE:
    (week 1 4)
    USP Labs Prime- 6 a day- Natural test booster
    USP Labs Anabolic Pump- 3 a day Insulinifier
    USP Labs Powerfull 3 a day HGH booster
    Multi vitamin
    Fish oil

    PH CYCLE:
    (week 5 10)
    LGI - Halo 25 (50/75/75/75/100/100)- PH
    USP Labs Powerfull 3 a day HGH Booster
    Cycle Assist
    Animal Stak
    Joint Assist
    Fish Oil

    PCT CYCLE:
    (week 11 15)
    Purus Labs Recycle 8 a day Test Booster
    Inhibit E
    USP Labs Powerfull 3 a day HGH Booster
    Gaspari Labs Size On Creatine workout days
    Liver Assist
    Animal Pak
    Fish Oil
    1.) Howdoes this look? Comments?
    2.) Icannot find an OTC SERM; is there one I can use in this PCT instead of an AI? Or do I need onefor Halo?
    3.) CanI combine the Halo 25 with another non-methyl PH during the cycle? Or can itstand alone? If so which?
    4.) Afterthe PCT, can I begin another PH cycle ? If not how much time and do I extend the PCTor should I go back to the Precycle?
    5.) Isthe Powerfull necessary? Or is there another HGH booster I should be adding?
    6.) ShouldI be using an insulinifier (SIMS) with Halo 25? Is Anabolic Pump ok or should I haveanother?
    7.) AreRecycle and Prime the same thing? Are they interchangeable?
    8.) Iunderstand halo 25 is a mild ph. I willbe running CEL- M LMG and H Drol next; these are stronger phs then halo 25correct?
    Thanks to anyone that can helphere. I have done extensive reading but no one seems to have this cycle anywhere and I would like advice from someone who knows. Thanks again. Please comment on any or all ofthis cycle to help me develop the best possible results.

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    drop the usplabs pre cycle, obtain a serm....
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    drop the usplabs pre cycle, obtain a serm....
    Quoted for truth. Not for sure what forums you have been doing your research but you need to do more reading particularly on this board. What does your diet look like now and how will you change it? What are your goals for protien and overall calorie intake? H drol is halodrol is halo 25.
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    Dude you can get a serm. Also drop all the USP labs stuff and the Animal stak. You don't need all those test boosters pre and on cycle.
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    I think you should do even more research. Halo25 and hdrol are the same thing lol.
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    To answer your specific questions
    1. It's not.a good cycle it needs work
    2.you need a serm,.but you have to find it on your own
    3.its good enough for your first run but you could
    4.getting bloodwork done is the only way to know for sure, broscience says time on +pct = time off which isn't bad advice
    The rest of the.answers are no.
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    Thanks for the fast responses guys. Didn't realize the Hdrol and Halo 25 were the same, like I said first cycle. So drop the PreCycle stuff and Animal Stak; roger that. Find a good SERM, heard, just cant seem to find any otc anywhere, but I will keep looking; Protein intake atm is 190gs a day, carbs are at 140gs / I will be changing it to 275gs of protein a day with 200gs of carbs a day on cycle. ALSO: Do you run a cycle/then PCT/ then cycle or take time off? If you take time off how much before trying another cycle? Ill keep reading your posts and continue reading on site. Any help with links would be great also. Thanks all keep it coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wt540 View Post
    Thanks for the fast responses guys. Didn't realize the Hdrol and Halo 25 were the same, like I said first cycle. So drop the PreCycle stuff and Animal Stak; roger that. Find a good SERM, heard, just cant seem to find any otc anywhere, but I will keep looking; Protein intake atm is 190gs a day, carbs are at 140gs / I will be changing it to 275gs of protein a day with 200gs of carbs a day on cycle. Ill keep reading your posts and continue reading on site. Any help with links would be great also. Thanks all keep it coming.
    SERMs are widely available online. If you want to gain weight you might want to raise carbs up a bit.
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    It's best to not start another cycle until you have recovered from your last cycle. The only way to know you have recovered is bloodwork and looking at your test, estro levels etc. Other advice is time on + pct = time off. And the amount of time it would take you to recover without a serm is much longer, you are also at greater risk for other sides like gyno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPS View Post
    It's best to not start another cycle until you have recovered from your last cycle. The only way to know you have recovered is bloodwork and looking at your test, estro levels etc. Other advice is time on + pct = time off. And the amount of time it would take you to recover without a serm is much longer, you are also at greater risk for other sides like gyno.
    he stated this would be his first cycle....
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    Quote Originally Posted by wt540 View Post
    Thanks for the fast responses guys. Didn't realize the Hdrol and Halo 25 were the same, like I said first cycle. So drop the PreCycle stuff and Animal Stak; roger that. Find a good SERM, heard, just cant seem to find any otc anywhere, but I will keep looking; Protein intake atm is 190gs a day, carbs are at 140gs / I will be changing it to 275gs of protein a day with 200gs of carbs a day on cycle. ALSO: Do you run a cycle/then PCT/ then cycle or take time off? If you take time off how much before trying another cycle? Ill keep reading your posts and continue reading on site. Any help with links would be great also. Thanks all keep it coming.
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    he stated this would be his first cycle....
    I was responding to the above question
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    As everyone has already said, you have a LOT more research to do. Aside from that:

    Preload your cycle assist, joint assist, liver assist (unless its TUDCA), fish oil, and multi. Continue these through PCT. Speaking of multi's, it appears you have three different ones. Pick one and stick with it from your loading phase through PCT. The less variables the better.

    Drop all the natty test and hgh boosters. Don't take anymore advice from whoever told you that you need these.

    Find a SERM. It's necessary. It's easy. No excuses.

    Since this is your first PH run, don't even begin to think of your next cycle! You have no idea how you will react to any of the compounds you're putting in your body. You'll have plenty of time after PCT to plan your next run.

    Make sure your diet and training are absolutely solid. This is where your gains will come from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPS View Post

    I was responding to the above question
    gotcha....
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    Will do. Thanks for all the fast responses guys. Its really great to get feedback on something I'm interested in trying after debating it for so long. Any and all advice is welcome and I am reviewing all your comments and will keep you posted on progress starting in two weeks. Thanks again all!
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    OK GUYS. After all the great feedback here is my revised ph/pct cycle. Comments and help welcome: PRECYCLE:
    (week 1 – 4)
    Cycle Assist
    USP Labs – Powerfull – 3 a day – HGH booster
    Multi vitamin
    Fish oil

    PH CYCLE:
    (week 5 – 10)
    LGI - Halo 25 – (50/75/75/75/100/100)- PH
    4 andro Rx – Ironmag Labs
    USP Labs – Powerfull – 3 a day – HGH Booster
    Cycle Assist
    Joint Assist
    Fish Oil
    Multi Vitamin
    ***Creatine last 2 weeks
    (2 grams of protein a day per lbs of weight/1.5gram carbs for lbs or weight)
    PCT CYCLE:
    (week 11 – 15)
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    USP Labs – Powerfull – 3 a day – HGH Booster
    Animal Stak – Test Booster OR Recycle USP Labs - Test Booster
    DAA power –Test Booster Support
    Creatine Daily
    Cycle Assist
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamin (2 grams of protein a day per lbs of weight/1gram carbs for lbs or weight)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wt540 View Post
    OK GUYS. After all the great feedback here is my revised ph/pct cycle. Comments and help welcome: PRECYCLE:
    (week 1 - 4)
    Cycle Assist
    USP Labs - Powerfull - 3 a day - HGH booster
    Multi vitamin
    Fish oil

    PH CYCLE:
    (week 5 - 10)
    LGI - Halo 25 - (50/75/75/75/100/100)- PH
    4 andro Rx - Ironmag Labs
    USP Labs - Powerfull - 3 a day - HGH Booster
    Cycle Assist
    Joint Assist
    Fish Oil
    Multi Vitamin
    ***Creatine last 2 weeks
    (2 grams of protein a day per lbs of weight/1.5gram carbs for lbs or weight)
    PCT CYCLE:
    (week 11 - 15)
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    USP Labs - Powerfull - 3 a day - HGH Booster
    Animal Stak - Test Booster OR Recycle USP Labs - Test Booster
    DAA power -Test Booster Support
    Creatine Daily
    Cycle Assist
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamin (2 grams of protein a day per lbs of weight/1gram carbs for lbs or weight)
    Take out the Powerfull
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    Quote Originally Posted by wt540 View Post
    OK GUYS. After all the great feedback here is my revised ph/pct cycle. Comments and help welcome: PRECYCLE:
    (week 1 - 4)
    Cycle Assist
    USP Labs - Powerfull - 3 a day - HGH booster
    Multi vitamin
    Fish oil

    PH CYCLE:
    (week 5 - 10)
    LGI - Halo 25 - (50/75/75/75/100/100)- PH
    4 andro Rx - Ironmag Labs
    USP Labs - Powerfull - 3 a day - HGH Booster
    Cycle Assist
    Joint Assist
    Fish Oil
    Multi Vitamin
    ***Creatine last 2 weeks
    (2 grams of protein a day per lbs of weight/1.5gram carbs for lbs or weight)
    PCT CYCLE:
    (week 11 - 15)
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    USP Labs - Powerfull - 3 a day - HGH Booster
    Animal Stak - Test Booster OR Recycle USP Labs - Test Booster
    DAA power -Test Booster Support
    Creatine Daily
    Cycle Assist
    Fish Oil
    Multivitamin (2 grams of protein a day per lbs of weight/1gram carbs for lbs or weight)
    whats ur deal with the powerfull pre cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amiller745 View Post

    Take out the Powerfull
    This.

    Everything else looks pretty solid.

    The test boosters in PCT are a little redundant. I'd keep the DAA and trade the Animal Stak for an AI. It appears Purus Labs Recycle is a test booster and AI, I'm going to have to read some logs myself and see if anyone has had good results with just this and a SERM.
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    I had the Powerfull to boost HGH levels...in the other supps I didn't see any HGH boosters except the Animal Stak. But I hear that. Ill take it out and try it. Not this week but next Ill begin my PH cycle. Thanks for all the help guys, its great to have feedback from experienced lifters. Ill post the progress and results.
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    Sounds good, maybe some coQ10 for blood pressure, worked well for me....
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    Sounds good, maybe some coQ10 for blood pressure, worked well for me....
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