M-sten Rx + Mechabol+ 4-andro stack
- 03-06-2013, 02:39 AM
M-sten Rx + Mechabol+ 4-andro stack
I am in the process of planning a cycle around my normal TRT dose of Test Cyp @ 200mg. I recently picked several bottles of Mechabol from a friend plus I just purchased a bottle of M-sten Rx, 4-andro Rx and Organ Shield for a seperate stack but I was thinking of stacking them all together. Thoughts?
M-sten @ 20mg -1-4 weeks
Mechabol @ 75 - 1-6 weeks
4-andro @ 100 mg (2 caps daily) weeks 2-6
Organ Shield (2 caps daily)
PES Erase (if needed)
Test Cyp @ 100 mg e3d TRT so no PCT needed
- 03-06-2013, 09:07 AM
03-06-2013, 10:21 AM
03-06-2013, 01:52 PM
Gotcha. Not familiar with cycles and TRT users. I assumed a tailored PCT was used to raise test levels as ensure you keep your gains seeing how 200 TRT a weeks isn't a lot from a test dosage on cycle.
03-06-2013, 04:53 PM
Well 200mg every 6 days keeps my levels right at 1100-1200 which is quite a bit higher than normal so I figured there wold be no need for PCT. As far as the compounds/dosages I have listed how does the cycle look
03-06-2013, 04:59 PM
Cycle looks good, you would see decent results from the m-sten alone but this compound IMO is best at 6 weeks lengths. Also, these compounds will shut you down. Maybe not completely as that is due to the individual. I could be wrong, but this shutdown will stop or decrease natty test so the TRT won't be much on cycle and I don't believe enough to raise test level back up by itself. I think you need to run pct even for 2-3 weeks alongside your TRT since its not a high dose. The clomid will restart natty test and TRT will keep it elevated
03-06-2013, 05:22 PM
PCT purpose is to get your natural production working again - no need here because the guy is living on exogenous test.
Cycling PHs while on trt is optimal because you maintain a steady level of test, its the best base to a cycle.
You have much to learn if you don't understand this simple concept.....
03-06-2013, 05:50 PM
03-06-2013, 05:52 PM
This is a funny thread if you can see the humor in not much common sense. Im with the last two posts!
03-06-2013, 06:10 PM
I would suggest a more robust cycle support like CEL Cycle Support, or AI Cycle Assist or Anteaus Labs Talos, might suggest TUDCA too cause you got 2 methyl's going on.
Does your endo already prescribe you a SERM and AI?
You might end up needing them, excess free test from the orals binding to the androgen receptors could end up your TRT aromatizing and giving you sides.
03-06-2013, 10:01 PM
yeah im not sure he knows what TRT is. m-sten really needs to be ran for 6 weeks. it takes a bit for it to kick in so at 4 weeks its just really getting good and your stopping it.
id run one or the other. 6 weeks of 2 methyls is rough.
m sten at 20 or more for 6 weeks, or mech at 75 or more for 6. you should get good results. you could lower the dosage on the m sten and run them both. but i think that brand doses it at 10mg per pill, 10 is a little low and 20 is a little high to run them both. just my openion
03-06-2013, 10:03 PM
and i think 4 andro is just dhea, if your running 200mg of cyp its not goign to do anything. if your endo doesnt perscribe an ai, ask him. he probably will give you hcg too.
why not just go with a high test cycle? my easier on the body.
03-07-2013, 10:10 AM
As far as and AI goes I have PES ERASE on hand do you think that would be enough to control any sides that may come up?
03-07-2013, 12:04 PM
03-07-2013, 12:27 PM
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