New SD compound?

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I remember brushing over a thread earlier today, and reading a few posts about a new clone of SD that was legal and going to be released sometime in the next few days/ weeks. Anyone in the know about this certain compound or manufacture? I didn't think it was possible, but this could just be hearsay BS.
 
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probly a marketing gimmick. they were calling cyanostane the next superdrol for awhile after it got banned. we all know how that ended.

its probly just a dmz clone. can you name the compound so i can look into this?
 
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If it's sold here its probably cytostane, there structures are similar. It could be m sten, they been hailing it the new sd fir a while now. But u can still buy sd and other ds that were banned. I get m1t no problem.
 
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Honestly, I can't. I just labeled it as BS and kept scrolling untill I saw comments on another forum about the same post here. If I find it, I'll let you know and try and find out from the individual. After seeing it a second time, it just sparked curiosity due to the fact I've never ran SD
 
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Sd is good stuff u should order some. 25lbs no problem and ripped as hell.
 
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Just order it from across the way. I don't trust sorces here
 
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you can still get sd if you know where to go. it was popular and effective enough for ugl's to create it. they make m1t too if you wanna experience some ****ed up sides that make sd look like a cake walk. but id rather just get test if i was gonna go with a ugl for products lol

edit: both of those compounds are still legal in uk too. if you order from their though, theres a chance customs will fuk you over
 
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I've got to many liabilities to order anything overseas and risk issues with customs or it getting tracked to me. (Cop, military). I have a source of SD at my gym supp shop, but not sure if its legit and haven't found any info on the company that's reliable.
 
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And yeah, the longer I look at it, I'm really starting to see that actual gear is so much easier. I just don't benefit from the PHs on the market now the way others do whether due to size or what, no clue.
 
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Ph/ds can only do so much. Test is a good investment. I work on an ambulance. And it's just a good idea in my openiom to be physically ready for what ever. U don't need it but man it makes the gym fun
 
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I think I know what op means,

Phf is coming out with a ph to superdrol, remember SD is a ds
 
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Oh werd, yeah sd is an actual steroid. It's active. So it wouldn't surprise me if they did pump one out.
 
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hmm i wonder how well the conversion will be
 
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Curious about conversion rates and optimal dosages...also price will be steep from them...as they now will have the PH to the favorite bulker.
 
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i founded it over at phf. its part of their celtic labs program

i think theyr sending everytthing on the celtic lab line to PA to write them off. im exicted about this now
 
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i founded it over at phf. its part of their celtic labs program

i think theyr sending everytthing on the celtic lab line to PA to write them off. im exicted about this now
You're going to crap yourself when you find out that they also have a phera type DS and 7aDbol in the mix as well. Hopefully all of these deliver. With new products you always question the beta testers.
 
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You're going to crap yourself when you find out that they also have a phera type DS and 7aDbol in the mix as well. Hopefully all of these deliver. With new products you always question the beta testers.
Phera PH...? Damn...high or low dosages, whichever is needed, if it does convert to Phera people are in for nasty sides for all I've read...Aren't the harshest DSs 1MT , Phera Plex and SD?
 
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Phera PH...? Damn...high or low dosages, whichever is needed, if it does convert to Phera people are in for nasty sides for all I've read...Aren't the harshest DSs 1MT , Phera Plex and SD?
I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think it was a cyano phera. I mean I've never hear anybody complain about phera while on it, just feelings of extreme size, strength and euphoria. SD and M1T all I see are sides AND the best gains of their lives. Personally I didn't feel bad on SD, I felt amazing on it besides the mid day lethargy.
 
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I haven't heard a lot of complaints about phera. But that doesn't mean anything. I think sd sides are exaggerated and I'm running m1t @22.5mg right now so I'll let u know. I will say I've searched high and low for phara and can't find it any where. I would love to get my hands in some.
 

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Phera PH...? Damn...high or low dosages, whichever is needed, if it does convert to Phera people are in for nasty sides for all I've read...Aren't the harshest DSs 1MT , Phera Plex and SD?
The vast majority of people felt great on Phera back in the day - as others have eluded to.

I feel fine on SD and M1T - maybe get slight back pumps on SD around day 8 or 9 but thats it besides HDL going in the trash. But Phera made me feel like a f'ing king - my libido was out of control - size and strength gain very similar to SD and M1T. Favorite oral ever bar none.
 
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The vast majority of people felt great on Phera back in the day - as others have eluded to.

I feel fine on SD and M1T - maybe get slight back pumps on SD around day 8 or 9 but thats it besides HDL going in the trash. But Phera made me feel like a f'ing king - my libido was out of control - size and strength gain very similar to SD and M1T. Favorite oral ever bar none.
I think its risky for PHF to do it to be honest. Just because there are so many people who have had phera, so if it doesn't live up to it, there will be tons of disappointment. On the other hand, if it works out, PHF will be king for this.
 
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You're going to crap yourself when you find out that they also have a phera type DS and 7aDbol in the mix as well. Hopefully all of these deliver. With new products you always question the beta testers.
youre right i crapped my pants a little there. but theyre gonna crap their pants when fda comes in and pops them in the nutsack. theyre playing with fire with these new chemicals

i want phera...
 

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youre right i crapped my pants a little there. but theyre gonna crap their pants when fda comes in and pops them in the nutsack. theyre playing with fire with these new chemicals

i want phera...
How is it any different than when any clone of a banned substance was made? Its not. The compounds are completely legal as of now so no ones crapping their pants. Also PHF is extremely reputable. Some people questioning them at the beginning of post made me laugh a little. These substances only get banned when a million people start talking about them which hopefully doesn't happen. Or when idiot high schoolers start logging these products on YouTube. God when I saw them doing that with SD I wanted to murder them. Remember what the FDA said. They want to keep our children safe.
 
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U'd think an UGL would make some. I know people who ran phara/sd second to none as a combo
 
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The vast majority of people felt great on Phera back in the day - as others have eluded to.

I feel fine on SD and M1T - maybe get slight back pumps on SD around day 8 or 9 but thats it besides HDL going in the trash. But Phera made me feel like a f'ing king - my libido was out of control - size and strength gain very similar to SD and M1T. Favorite oral ever bar none.
What did u dose ur m1t at
 

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Yeah M1T, Phera or SD I really only get elevated BP. I am glad that i have many bottles of Phera it is a great cycle for me.
 
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Curious about conversion rates and optimal dosages...also price will be steep from them...as they now will have the PH to the favorite bulker.
Conversion rates won't matter, it'll still be active and able to bind with the ar

Dosing will prob be slightly less than Sd. Butwho knows
 
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Conversion rates won't matter, it'll still be active and able to bind with the ar

Dosing will prob be slightly less than Sd. Butwho knows
i think theyre dosing it at 5mg per cap. could just be a rumor though

its called celtic mass for those wondering
 

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Yeah M1T, Phera or SD I really only get elevated BP. I am glad that i have many bottles of Phera it is a great cycle for me.
Lucky...wasn't even lifting weights yet when that was around
 
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Sides tolerable? Were you able to keep most gains?
Well - I did M1T in 2003. I had never taken any supplement besides protein and a little creatine. I was 26 years old, had lifted for sports performance and played baseball/football. I go into a local supp shop where I had been buying metrx and optimum whey for years and say to the guy "I want to try a good supplement, you have any recommendation?" - he says "try this stuff, guys love it." It was M1T and I took it for 4 weeks ish - took it sporadically because I didn't know it was serious stuff - 20mg one day, 10 the next, maybe miss a day. The sh*t worked though - I ran a pulse I guess. But I did no PCT - nothing.

Well - I learned that it was roids when I went back to get more and it was banned. I was shocked that you could buy steroids in a supp shop. I was not on any board, totally out of the loop. Just a guy that lifted and played sports.

I ran it twice after that - still no sarm and got a little gyno. Im smarter now.

I did keep some gains but strength definately decreased when off - but up when all was said and done.
 
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Black Liver is where it's at.
 
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M1T at 20mg for four weeks - strength and size gains were second to none with that sh*t
yeah im running it around 20mg. dont think ill do 4 weeks, probably just 2-3.
 

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Well - I did M1T in 2003. I had never taken any supplement besides protein and a little creatine. I was 26 years old, had lifted for sports performance and played baseball/football. I go into a local supp shop where I had been buying metrx and optimum whey for years and say to the guy "I want to try a good supplement, you have any recommendation?" - he says "try this stuff, guys love it." It was M1T and I took it for 4 weeks ish - took it sporadically because I didn't know it was serious stuff - 20mg one day, 10 the next, maybe miss a day. The sh*t worked though - I ran a pulse I guess. But I did no PCT - nothing.

Well - I learned that it was roids when I went back to get more and it was banned. I was shocked that you could buy steroids in a supp shop. I was not on any board, totally out of the loop. Just a guy that lifted and played sports.

I ran it twice after that - still no sarm and got a little gyno. Im smarter now.

I did keep some gains but strength definately decreased when off - but up when all was said and done.
Wow. Still hard to believe a retailer would do that so casually; then again, most of these guys probably don't even know what it is they're selling.
 
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Oh hey bros... It's not a SD clone it's the diol prohormone to SD. It's available now along with all types of good **** over at PHF. PA is testing all our stuff for purity so you know this stuff is gonna be legit. I'm gonna try to be on this board a lot more often and I'll sub this thread. I just got the job so I don't have all the details just yet but be patient and stay tuned. This summer's gonna be HOT!
 
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Curious about conversion rates and optimal dosages...also price will be steep from them...as they now will have the PH to the favorite bulker.
If its the one I saw its 19 a bottle. But me and my bud were speculating double dose might be needed for equivalent effects

Edit- we were just bs-ing at the gym, no real thought went into it. Waiting for logs
 

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Hell, even if its moderately dosed Halo then 19 bucks a bottle is still quite cheap. If its as potent as hoped then its a damn steal. Snagged three. Can't to get a cycle going. Praying to the muscle gods its genuinely in the SD ballpark.
 
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The vast majority of people felt great on Phera back in the day - as others have eluded to.

I feel fine on SD and M1T - maybe get slight back pumps on SD around day 8 or 9 but thats it besides HDL going in the trash. But Phera made me feel like a f'ing king - my libido was out of control - size and strength gain very similar to SD and M1T. Favorite oral ever bar none.

Phera is indeed good. I still have some of that laying around..
 
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So witch one of the Celtic Labs is the phera? Or is it still in the making?

Never did SD, how many guys get bad libido on it?
 
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So witch one of the Celtic Labs is the phera? Or is it still in the making?

Never did SD, how many guys get bad libido on it?
not released yet. and dead dick is pretty common on sd. but this isnt sd, its a ph to sd
 
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So what would be the best option for not getting dead d**k? I tried a tren blend about 4 years ago and my junk was dead for weeks, not even viagra would work. My fiance almost left me.
 
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So what would be the best option for not getting dead d**k? I tried a tren blend about 4 years ago and my junk was dead for weeks, not even viagra would work. My fiance almost left me.
If you're trying not to use anything illegal sometimes DHEA or an Epiandrosterone product like 5-Alpha Test by Forruner can be helpful if run along side a less libido friendly compound.
I was actually one of the beta testers for the Product I mentioned above. The beta version worked well and they have upgraded it for the retail version. I'm thinking of grabbing some soon myself!
 
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If u run test along with sd, ur junk should work fine. The only time I've had problems with that was when I wasn't running test
 
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Well sure running test would work, but I have not had a way to get it for the past 15 years. What about epi?
 

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