New SD compound?
- 03-27-2013, 08:12 PM
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I'm planning on running this:
I've run low dose Osta in the past so I know what to expet from it. So, I'll know if the trest is soon anything at the lower dose. Then once I've used it for a while I'll start to kick it up a notch. I like to explore the lower ranges of a new compound first. It really gives me an idea of what it can do. And most guys would be surprised how little of some compounds you actually need to get results. For example. I was doing 10mg SD 3X a week on workout days only for a 6 week stent and I put on 15lbs and kept 10 a while back.
03-27-2013, 11:16 PM
Hey guys I just got my bottle of super dmz 2.0 I was wondering if anybody has used it and what effective dosing is?
03-27-2013, 11:19 PM
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03-28-2013, 12:23 AM
03-28-2013, 12:40 AM
Also, please use a solid liver support. SDMZ 2.0 is what I ended my last cycle and it had to end abruptly and badly because my liver was NOT happy. I wasn't doing anything crazy, but had gone extra long (8 weeks was the planned length) and started my cycle with an SD Tvar combination. Week seven I threw in 50mg of Dbol and it was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was 3 days in when I started to itch uncontrollably. It had been about two weeks since my wife had started thinking I was going tanning behind her back (not really, but it's what I looked like). Normal bilirubin levels are less than 1 (not sure the scale or units). I topped out at 9. It got so bad that I was eating saltines and sprite for supper for about a week. I wasn't able to even think about going back to the gym until 8 weeks later. Now at 12 I've been training solid for 3 weeks again. Through it all I lost all 25lbs I had gained (I've sinced started gaining it back). I lost all my strength gains. And to top it off, I wasn't able to do anything for PCT so I got rebound gyno.
03-28-2013, 01:21 AM
03-28-2013, 01:22 AM
How do you notice your liver getting fu*ked up? I want to make sure to get proper supplements for this
03-28-2013, 01:32 AM
Google cholestasis. Jaundice of the eyes, skin. Massive itching. White feces. Brown urine. These are 'stop right now and pound tucda' signs not to be taken lightly.
03-28-2013, 01:34 AM
03-28-2013, 01:54 AM
Celtic have any considerations regarding a cycle support product featuring TUCDA? Seem to have everything else worthwhile.
03-28-2013, 01:56 AM
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03-28-2013, 09:25 AM
If not, TUDCA will also suffice. 500mg UDCA per day is enough for most harsh oral cycles. TUDCA you could run 750-1000mg per day for same results.
A few years back I did a run of SD bridged into Trenazone/H-drol. Took bloods 2 days after ending cycle and came back in the normal range. I ran UDCA throughout. Got it all captured in a log here on AM. When I say "captured" I actually mean the pictures of the blood results to prove it.
03-29-2013, 12:42 AM
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03-30-2013, 03:23 PM
There is no way to answer this question with any degree of hard evidence. Based purely on my experiences and research, I'd rank them like this:
Most to least toxic
Anavar/Dienolone stuff/etc etc
I could be way off. SD might be far more toxic than Dbol and Anadrol, or it might only be something more like Phera or Epistane. Generally speaking, my thought is this: the more dramatic the gains, the more toxic it is. This is a common trade off with steroids. Gains vs. health risks. Since SD is among the strongest, I'd treat it with respect. Run UDCA. Run Milk Thistle if you like as well. Stay off the alcohol before AND after the cycle for a while. Eat right. Do cardio. Stay healthy as you can while you run it.
This is also why the general public, media and government typically assume that giant bodybuilders are at a severe health risk since they have in some cases double their mass over time. Granted, this isn't always the case. That's the point of cycling and running ancillaries throughout - to protect and recover the body's healthy state.
So that list is something I have created as a rule of thumb on how to treat each compound. Sure, there are far more compounds that I am not familiar with that could fit in various places in there but you get the picture. I'd treat DMZ like Phera or SD if I were you.
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