New SD compound?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post

    Like the others have said, it's going to take a higher dosage to get similar results because of the conversion rate. However, it may prove to be a powerful PH in it's one right.

    I would say that this is a safe assumption. Same active hormone at a higher dosage per pill. I think it's safe to say that it will be a great product. I'm thinking that a Trestobol/Celtitren stack will be a potent combination.
    I was gonna run Celticmass and Celtictren. If it was anything like trenavar than I'm excited


  2. Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post
    I was gonna run Celticmass and Celtictren. If it was anything like trenavar than I'm excited
    Another really good stack!
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  3. I'm actually considering an Ostobol/Trestobol Stack. Since Osta has a long half life and the Trest a shorter one, I'd take Osta in the morning and Trest PWO.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    I'm actually considering an Ostobol/Trestobol Stack. Since Osta has a long half life and the Trest a shorter one, I'd take Osta in the morning and Trest PWO.
    Nice bro good luck!
    I've ran ph before and usually the dosing 2-3 a day when's the best time to take it? With trenavar I took it one hour before my work out and one in the morning and one in the afternoon. Is that a correct way of doing it??

  5. That is a good way of doing it since they have shorter half lives. Most are somewhere between 4-8 hours. Trest is really short, but VERY potent. It's half-life is only around an hour, but it stays in your system for longer. Osta though has a half-life of 36 hrs. So, it would be a great companion to a compound like Trest. At least, that's what seems logical to me at the moment. We'll have to wait and see once I get a chance to run them together.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    That is a good way of doing it since they have shorter half lives. Most are somewhere between 4-8 hours. Trest is really short, but VERY potent. It's half-life is only around an hour, but it stays in your system for longer. Osta though has a half-life of 36 hrs. So, it would be a great companion to a compound like Trest. At least, that's what seems logical to me at the moment. We'll have to wait and see once I get a chance to run them together.
    Let me know your results! Do you know the half life of celtitren and Celticmass??

  7. Celticmass is really new. So, I'm going to say that that info probably isn't available. I'm not so sure about Celtitren either. I want to say that IBE had something on Trenavar that was posted in the past, but I'm not 100%.

    However, I'm pretty sure that SD had a half-life around 8-9 hours. And a few other PH's I've heard of having half-lives in that same 4-8 hour range. Which is why it's a good rule of thumb to take any PH in split dosages.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    Celticmass is really new. So, I'm going to say that that info probably isn't available. I'm not so sure about Celtitren either. I want to say that IBE had something on Trenavar that was posted in the past, but I'm not 100%.

    However, I'm pretty sure that SD had a half-life around 8-9 hours. And a few other PH's I've heard of having half-lives in that same 4-8 hour range. Which is why it's a good rule of thumb to take any PH in split dosages.
    BA on phf is answering ALL questions relating to Celtic labs products

  9. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    BA on phf is answering ALL questions relating to Celtic labs products
    Yeah, like what the heck is the Ostabol? What hormone is this trying to mimmick?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    BA on phf is answering ALL questions relating to Celtic labs products
    Yes he is. Here's a nice little write up: http://www.totalflexblog.com/news/celtic-mass/

    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    Yeah, like what the heck is the Ostabol? What hormone is this trying to mimmick?
    Ostobol is our Ostarine product.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    Yes he is. Here's a nice little write up: http://www.totalflexblog.com/news/celtic-mass/



    Ostobol is our Ostarine product.

    So which is the Phera product?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    So which is the Phera product?
    Phera is still coming.

  13. waiting for the phera...always wanted to try this
    OLYMPUS UK REP

  14. Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post
    I ran trenavar which Is the same ingredient but celtictren has a higher dosage. I got solid gains from trenavar at the minimum dosage and I staked with methyl1-d good stack kinda pricey though
    im running a similar trenavar product now x trenavar at 30mgs a pill. i wish i would have waited as this one is cheaper and you know itll be good because its new and being promoted by actual reps.

    what is trestabol..i dont think iv seen this compound

  15. I still wish we had Boldione aka Bold200. I really would like to run that @ 800mg for 12 weeks.

  16. Would the trestobol product be similar to 5-Alpha test or still good on the old libido?

  17. Trestobol is trestolone acetate. Completely different and brand new.

  18. Trest is good on the libido. In fact, it's been shown to act a lot like test biologically.

  19. I know nothing about the trestobol. What's a good dose and cycle length for it?

  20. We're still working on the effective dosing. It's not 17a alkylated so it shouldn't be too harsh. However, from an anabolic standpoint it has a fairly short oral half life. However, it is potent and will shut you down hard. It was originally being researched for male contraception at doses as little as 1.5mg. So, it's going to take some trial and error as Tvar did when it first came out.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    i would guess conversion would be around 10-20%. its like the dosing for alpha1 and M1t. people run alpha1 at 60mg i want to meet the guy who runs M1t at 60.

    the more i dig into this ph sd i feel like it will be less of a bulker and more of a recomp/cut. depending on the toxicity and the conversion rate that is. i dont see it converting at a super high rate so unless its extremely active on its own. i dont think it will get you what you get from SD.

    alpha1 however is active and converts to M1t at around 10-20%. thats why its such a good bulker.

    none the less i think this is going to be an awesome product. ive run sd up to 50mg before and ive run M1t up to 30mg. so i think ill be able to give it a solid rating once i get my hands on some. im really excited about there other products, im guessing its a mentabolen compound, it looked like youve labeled it as MENT but i might be reading wrong. it should be awesome and your getting way more per bottle than anyone else.

    whats the word on the 2 cyano phera?
    I'd be interested to see what you're basing the 10-20% figure on. Conversion rates are generally pretty hard to nail down and some conversions are reversible making it even more complicated. In any case we really won't have solid answers until people start eating it and tell us what happens. We have a few guys that have used SD in the past trying it out soon so we should have some solid feedback in a month or so. 50mg of SD is quite a dose! Did you get bloods done after that adventure? IBE MENT is available which is the precursor to active ment/trest. Celtic Lab's Trestobol is also available for pre-order and that is active trest (requires no conversion)

    2-cyano-Phera our source is still working on for us so that's gonna be a while because they have to figure out the synthesis, get us a sample, we gotta get the sample to PA to test, if that comes back good we gotta get a bulk order, then test that, then cap it, bottle it, label it and get it to retail...
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    I'd be interested to see what you're basing the 10-20% figure on. Conversion rates are generally pretty hard to nail down and some conversions are reversible making it even more complicated. In any case we really won't have solid answers until people start eating it and tell us what happens. We have a few guys that have used SD in the past trying it out soon so we should have some solid feedback in a month or so. 50mg of SD is quite a dose! Did you get bloods done after that adventure? IBE MENT is available which is the precursor to active ment/trest. Celtic Lab's Trestobol is also available for pre-order and that is active trest (requires no conversion)

    2-cyano-Phera our source is still working on for us so that's gonna be a while because they have to figure out the synthesis, get us a sample, we gotta get the sample to PA to test, if that comes back good we gotta get a bulk order, then test that, then cap it, bottle it, label it and get it to retail...
    the 10-20% is just a rough guess. if it converts at a higher rate that would be awesome but even at 10-20% youll get great results. IMHO. in no way was i trying to put this product down. im pretty excited to see whats in store from yall in the future

    50mg of SD was dumb and will never do that again. 30mg of M1T was dumb and i will never do that again. i got bloods with the sd. things were not as bad as i thought. i ran it with 1g of UDCA prescription grade. but both experiences were just uncomfortable, painfull, and just not worth it. thats awesome about the Trestobol, ive got some UGL inject-able MENT that im saving for a 6-8 weeker at 50mg a day.

    im game to wait on the 2-cyano Phera, from what i understand its a very difficult synth. glad yall are going for the hard stuff. ive been tempted to pick up a few bottles of Phera but its just so expensive. id just rather run a-bombs and save some money.
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751

  23. Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    Trest is good on the libido. In fact, it's been shown to act a lot like test biologically.
    i know injectable is 50mg ed at max. what doses have your testers been using so far?
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751

  24. Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    the 10-20% is just a rough guess. if it converts at a higher rate that would be awesome but even at 10-20% youll get great results. IMHO. in no way was i trying to put this product down. im pretty excited to see whats in store from yall in the future
    I in no way thought you were putting it down We really don't know how it's going to perform yet; we're hoping it gives similar gains to SD with less toxicity but that may be wishful thinking. I'm pretty excited for the future to. Just to build a little more anticipation, we're also working on a new 1-AD (the compound PA was planning to release as 1-AD v.4 but never got to...) that will hopefully be considerably stronger than the 1-androsterone clones available currently.
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    Iron Legion Company Representative

  25. Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    i know injectable is 50mg ed at max. what doses have your testers been using so far?
    50mg inj. 50-100mg TD much like celtic mass we don't know what oral dose will be optimal. Most users are planning to start with dosing schemes similar to those with the IBE MENT currently available.
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    Iron Legion Company Representative
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