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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    That is a good way of doing it since they have shorter half lives. Most are somewhere between 4-8 hours. Trest is really short, but VERY potent. It's half-life is only around an hour, but it stays in your system for longer. Osta though has a half-life of 36 hrs. So, it would be a great companion to a compound like Trest. At least, that's what seems logical to me at the moment. We'll have to wait and see once I get a chance to run them together.
    Let me know your results! Do you know the half life of celtitren and Celticmass??

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    Celticmass is really new. So, I'm going to say that that info probably isn't available. I'm not so sure about Celtitren either. I want to say that IBE had something on Trenavar that was posted in the past, but I'm not 100%.

    However, I'm pretty sure that SD had a half-life around 8-9 hours. And a few other PH's I've heard of having half-lives in that same 4-8 hour range. Which is why it's a good rule of thumb to take any PH in split dosages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    Celticmass is really new. So, I'm going to say that that info probably isn't available. I'm not so sure about Celtitren either. I want to say that IBE had something on Trenavar that was posted in the past, but I'm not 100%.

    However, I'm pretty sure that SD had a half-life around 8-9 hours. And a few other PH's I've heard of having half-lives in that same 4-8 hour range. Which is why it's a good rule of thumb to take any PH in split dosages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    BA on phf is answering ALL questions relating to Celtic labs products
    Yeah, like what the heck is the Ostabol? What hormone is this trying to mimmick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    BA on phf is answering ALL questions relating to Celtic labs products
    Yes he is. Here's a nice little write up: http://www.totalflexblog.com/news/celtic-mass/

    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    Yeah, like what the heck is the Ostabol? What hormone is this trying to mimmick?
    Ostobol is our Ostarine product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    Yes he is. Here's a nice little write up: http://www.totalflexblog.com/news/celtic-mass/



    Ostobol is our Ostarine product.

    So which is the Phera product?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    So which is the Phera product?
    Phera is still coming.
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    waiting for the phera...always wanted to try this
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    Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post
    I ran trenavar which Is the same ingredient but celtictren has a higher dosage. I got solid gains from trenavar at the minimum dosage and I staked with methyl1-d good stack kinda pricey though
    im running a similar trenavar product now x trenavar at 30mgs a pill. i wish i would have waited as this one is cheaper and you know itll be good because its new and being promoted by actual reps.

    what is trestabol..i dont think iv seen this compound
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    I still wish we had Boldione aka Bold200. I really would like to run that @ 800mg for 12 weeks.
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    Would the trestobol product be similar to 5-Alpha test or still good on the old libido?
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    Trestobol is trestolone acetate. Completely different and brand new.
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    Trest is good on the libido. In fact, it's been shown to act a lot like test biologically.
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    I know nothing about the trestobol. What's a good dose and cycle length for it?
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    We're still working on the effective dosing. It's not 17a alkylated so it shouldn't be too harsh. However, from an anabolic standpoint it has a fairly short oral half life. However, it is potent and will shut you down hard. It was originally being researched for male contraception at doses as little as 1.5mg. So, it's going to take some trial and error as Tvar did when it first came out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    i would guess conversion would be around 10-20%. its like the dosing for alpha1 and M1t. people run alpha1 at 60mg i want to meet the guy who runs M1t at 60.

    the more i dig into this ph sd i feel like it will be less of a bulker and more of a recomp/cut. depending on the toxicity and the conversion rate that is. i dont see it converting at a super high rate so unless its extremely active on its own. i dont think it will get you what you get from SD.

    alpha1 however is active and converts to M1t at around 10-20%. thats why its such a good bulker.

    none the less i think this is going to be an awesome product. ive run sd up to 50mg before and ive run M1t up to 30mg. so i think ill be able to give it a solid rating once i get my hands on some. im really excited about there other products, im guessing its a mentabolen compound, it looked like youve labeled it as MENT but i might be reading wrong. it should be awesome and your getting way more per bottle than anyone else.

    whats the word on the 2 cyano phera?
    I'd be interested to see what you're basing the 10-20% figure on. Conversion rates are generally pretty hard to nail down and some conversions are reversible making it even more complicated. In any case we really won't have solid answers until people start eating it and tell us what happens. We have a few guys that have used SD in the past trying it out soon so we should have some solid feedback in a month or so. 50mg of SD is quite a dose! Did you get bloods done after that adventure? IBE MENT is available which is the precursor to active ment/trest. Celtic Lab's Trestobol is also available for pre-order and that is active trest (requires no conversion)

    2-cyano-Phera our source is still working on for us so that's gonna be a while because they have to figure out the synthesis, get us a sample, we gotta get the sample to PA to test, if that comes back good we gotta get a bulk order, then test that, then cap it, bottle it, label it and get it to retail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    I'd be interested to see what you're basing the 10-20% figure on. Conversion rates are generally pretty hard to nail down and some conversions are reversible making it even more complicated. In any case we really won't have solid answers until people start eating it and tell us what happens. We have a few guys that have used SD in the past trying it out soon so we should have some solid feedback in a month or so. 50mg of SD is quite a dose! Did you get bloods done after that adventure? IBE MENT is available which is the precursor to active ment/trest. Celtic Lab's Trestobol is also available for pre-order and that is active trest (requires no conversion)

    2-cyano-Phera our source is still working on for us so that's gonna be a while because they have to figure out the synthesis, get us a sample, we gotta get the sample to PA to test, if that comes back good we gotta get a bulk order, then test that, then cap it, bottle it, label it and get it to retail...
    the 10-20% is just a rough guess. if it converts at a higher rate that would be awesome but even at 10-20% youll get great results. IMHO. in no way was i trying to put this product down. im pretty excited to see whats in store from yall in the future

    50mg of SD was dumb and will never do that again. 30mg of M1T was dumb and i will never do that again. i got bloods with the sd. things were not as bad as i thought. i ran it with 1g of UDCA prescription grade. but both experiences were just uncomfortable, painfull, and just not worth it. thats awesome about the Trestobol, ive got some UGL inject-able MENT that im saving for a 6-8 weeker at 50mg a day.

    im game to wait on the 2-cyano Phera, from what i understand its a very difficult synth. glad yall are going for the hard stuff. ive been tempted to pick up a few bottles of Phera but its just so expensive. id just rather run a-bombs and save some money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    Trest is good on the libido. In fact, it's been shown to act a lot like test biologically.
    i know injectable is 50mg ed at max. what doses have your testers been using so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    the 10-20% is just a rough guess. if it converts at a higher rate that would be awesome but even at 10-20% youll get great results. IMHO. in no way was i trying to put this product down. im pretty excited to see whats in store from yall in the future
    I in no way thought you were putting it down We really don't know how it's going to perform yet; we're hoping it gives similar gains to SD with less toxicity but that may be wishful thinking. I'm pretty excited for the future to. Just to build a little more anticipation, we're also working on a new 1-AD (the compound PA was planning to release as 1-AD v.4 but never got to...) that will hopefully be considerably stronger than the 1-androsterone clones available currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    i know injectable is 50mg ed at max. what doses have your testers been using so far?
    50mg inj. 50-100mg TD much like celtic mass we don't know what oral dose will be optimal. Most users are planning to start with dosing schemes similar to those with the IBE MENT currently available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    We're still working on the effective dosing. It's not 17a alkylated so it shouldn't be too harsh. However, from an anabolic standpoint it has a fairly short oral half life. However, it is potent and will shut you down hard. It was originally being researched for male contraception at doses as little as 1.5mg. So, it's going to take some trial and error as Tvar did when it first came out.
    Oh, hey bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    50mg inj. 50-100mg TD much like celtic mass we don't know what oral dose will be optimal. Most users are planning to start with dosing schemes similar to those with the IBE MENT currently available.
    I think i'm gonna run celtic mass at 30mg a day to start stacked with trest at 40 probably 20/10 and 20/20, might fool around with 50mg of trest pwo. This should be interesting. I dunno i got 2 bottles of each on order and I'm going for 6 weeks.
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    This is what I'm thinking:

    Trest: 40/40/40/40/40/40

    Celtitren: 60/90/90/90/90/90
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    Quote Originally Posted by amiller745 View Post
    This is what I'm thinking:

    Trest: 40/40/40/40/40/40

    Celtitren: 60/90/90/90/90/90
    In before Prami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 00S4Boy View Post

    In before Prami.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nostrum420 View Post
    Oh, hey bro
    Sup buddy!
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    I'm planning on running this:

    Ostobol: 10/10/10/20/20/20
    Trestobol: 20/20/20/40/40/40

    I've run low dose Osta in the past so I know what to expet from it. So, I'll know if the trest is soon anything at the lower dose. Then once I've used it for a while I'll start to kick it up a notch. I like to explore the lower ranges of a new compound first. It really gives me an idea of what it can do. And most guys would be surprised how little of some compounds you actually need to get results. For example. I was doing 10mg SD 3X a week on workout days only for a 6 week stent and I put on 15lbs and kept 10 a while back.
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    Hey guys I just got my bottle of super dmz 2.0 I was wondering if anybody has used it and what effective dosing is?
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    SDMZ is perfect at just 2 a day. One in the morning and one in the evening. You can't go wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    SDMZ is perfect at just 2 a day. One in the morning and one in the evening. You can't go wrong.
    Should I take one before workout??
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    You don't have to, but you aren't hurting anything by doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post
    You don't have to, but you aren't hurting anything by doing it.
    Thank you! Your info is useful.. Hey do you know if it aromatizes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by musclefool View Post
    Thank you! Your info is useful.. Hey do you know if it aromatizes?
    I didn't have any issues. Both compounds are based off of SD, which doesn't aromatize. Word of warning though, you run the risk of estrogen rebound when you come off. So make sure you've got a AI on hand for PCT at the very least.

    Also, please use a solid liver support. SDMZ 2.0 is what I ended my last cycle and it had to end abruptly and badly because my liver was NOT happy. I wasn't doing anything crazy, but had gone extra long (8 weeks was the planned length) and started my cycle with an SD Tvar combination. Week seven I threw in 50mg of Dbol and it was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was 3 days in when I started to itch uncontrollably. It had been about two weeks since my wife had started thinking I was going tanning behind her back (not really, but it's what I looked like). Normal bilirubin levels are less than 1 (not sure the scale or units). I topped out at 9. It got so bad that I was eating saltines and sprite for supper for about a week. I wasn't able to even think about going back to the gym until 8 weeks later. Now at 12 I've been training solid for 3 weeks again. Through it all I lost all 25lbs I had gained (I've sinced started gaining it back). I lost all my strength gains. And to top it off, I wasn't able to do anything for PCT so I got rebound gyno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supermanjow View Post

    I didn't have any issues. Both compounds are based off of SD, which doesn't aromatize. Word of warning though, you run the risk of estrogen rebound when you come off. So make sure you've got a AI on hand for PCT at the very least.

    Also, please use a solid liver support. SDMZ 2.0 is what I ended my last cycle and it had to end abruptly and badly because my liver was NOT happy. I wasn't doing anything crazy, but had gone extra long (8 weeks was the planned length) and started my cycle with an SD Tvar combination. Week seven I threw in 50mg of Dbol and it was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was 3 days in when I started to itch uncontrollably. It had been about two weeks since my wife had started thinking I was going tanning behind her back (not really, but it's what I looked like). Normal bilirubin levels are less than 1 (not sure the scale or units). I topped out at 9. It got so bad that I was eating saltines and sprite for supper for about a week. I wasn't able to even think about going back to the gym until 8 weeks later. Now at 12 I've been training solid for 3 weeks again. Through it all I lost all 25lbs I had gained (I've sinced started gaining it back). I lost all my strength gains. And to top it off, I wasn't able to do anything for PCT so I got rebound gyno.
    Hmm interesting.. On my previous cycles with tren test deca and dbol I never used a estrogen blocker/PCT and I didn't have any serious side affects besides the back acne and increase in aggression but other than that I kept my size and strength... But I didn't stack them
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    How do you notice your liver getting fu*ked up? I want to make sure to get proper supplements for this
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    Google cholestasis. Jaundice of the eyes, skin. Massive itching. White feces. Brown urine. These are 'stop right now and pound tucda' signs not to be taken lightly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilko View Post
    Google cholestasis. Jaundice of the eyes, skin. Massive itching. White feces. Brown urine. These are 'stop right now and pound tucda' signs not to be taken lightly.
    Well said! I use Antaeus Labs Aegis all the time now. Great stuff!!!
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    Celtic have any considerations regarding a cycle support product featuring TUCDA? Seem to have everything else worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilko View Post
    Celtic have any considerations regarding a cycle support product featuring TUCDA? Seem to have everything else worthwhile.
    I don't think there's anything in the works right now. We're really focusing on giving everyone the best bang for their buck hormonal compounds while bringing out new analogues that no one is carrying or perhaps have even thought of carrying!
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