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    first test cycle in 3 weeks


    hey guys, this will be my first injectable cycle, ran one epi cycle prior
    weeks 1-12 test e 500mg/week
    weeks 1-6 tbol 40/40/50/50/60/60
    weeks 1-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod
    weeks 1-6/ 14-18 liv-52...possibly more?

    10 days after last pin start pct
    100/50/50/50 clomid
    paragon with clomid

    30 yrs old 6 foot 3...sitting at 230 now....big ups to howwedo for answering all my annoying newb questions, and all others for your useful logs i have been reading

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    Looks good and well researched. I'd just use a standard cycle support supp the whole way through although many do not. I'd recommend hcg for anything above 10 weeks as pct becomes a joke compared to w out it. Once again many do not. Many like OTC AIs stacked w clomid in pct as well.
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    hcg confuses me cause of so many different opinions on it, i have some forged post cycle and a bottle of forma stanzol left over so i may use it up....as far as cycle support what do you recommend?...one thing hard for a noob is the million answers you get on everything lol
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    one big reason im waiting is cause mid march i have a company celebration and even though i dont drink much anymore you can bet your ass im getting tanked on their dime....im not gonna drink any alcohol at all while on so im gonna wait a week or so after that night to start....
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    What are your goals?
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    lbm.....if you want some real honesty its just something i want to do....i wont feed you no bull****, but like i said i wanna try it and see where i can go with it....i have 2 kids and turned my garage into a gym so the one hobby i have is lifting
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    Quote Originally Posted by morris14 View Post
    lbm.....if you want some real honesty its just something i want to do....i wont feed you no bull****, but like i said i wanna try it and see where i can go with it....i have 2 kids and turned my garage into a gym so the one hobby i have is lifting

    Nothing wrong with that at all man. Cycle looks pretty well put together. Also HCG is a good idea and you have time to do some research on it until you'll actually be ready to use it, so stay open minded about it. Excited for your progress man. Good luck.
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    thank you...i just wanna make sure everything is in check and i do it responsibly....im not trying to be a know it all and just dive in....that is the purpose of this thread to gain more knowledge before i start
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    i can absolutely respect a guy who plans properly and doesnt lie to himself about occasional indulging. As far as cycle support goes, a company called competitive edge labs makes a product called "cycle assist." It seems to be one of the more common supports used on this board. I actually use it myself as well.

    As far as hcg if it is something u wanna look into - It would be dosed via subq injection typically about 500iu-1000iu per week split into two weekly shots. Most people start after a few weeks in, then end it a week or two b4 pct as it is actually PROVEN to cause a little shutdown itself. If u want my personal experience i find two shots of 250iu per week to be plenty. You will prob see many people blasting it into their pct, and i can assure u scientifically that those members' testicles are not working as well as they could be (this of course does not include those blasting and cruising or those on TRT).
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    I take cycle assist and I also use tudca just to cover my bases while on a cycle. Along with a good multi and fish oil. What's your diet going to look like?
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    ive never been one to get into calorie counting and macros, i just like to make sure im keeping my protein intake up...carb up on lifting days, carb down on off days....i try to eat clean whole foods...chicken, steak,fish,veggies, fruits etc....deer jerky whenever im feeling like making a batch
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    any other thoughts?...im all ears
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    Quote Originally Posted by morris14 View Post
    any other thoughts?...im all ears
    Add lean extreme and DAA to your PCT
    You'll need lean extreme for cortisol control...
    DAA is an amino that boost your levels back NATuRALLY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by IFBBound View Post

    Add lean extreme and DAA to your PCT
    You'll need lean extreme for cortisol control...
    DAA is an amino that boost your levels back NATuRALLY!

    Maybe erase pro as well?
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    this is why i like hearing peoples opinions, only problem is if i was to buy what everyone says i need id be taking 46 things
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    Quote Originally Posted by morris14 View Post
    this is why i like hearing peoples opinions, only problem is if i was to buy what everyone says i need id be taking 46 things

    Haha yeah but better to have an abundance of info and then you can decide what might work best for you. Id rather have that than none or crappy info ya know what I'm sayin.
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    i totally agree, you guys have been more than helpful i just wish everyone would take this into account instead of bashing newbs...its hard when your told so many different things
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