- 02-21-2013, 09:50 AM
So my physiology teacher just talked about a non testable way of getting anabolic steroid effects without steroids. She said some Olympic athletes inject themselves with DNA in order to obtain bigger and stronger muscles. I tried googling it but came up with nothing. Have you guys heard of this? And if so.. How the heck do I get my hands on some of that?!
- 02-21-2013, 09:57 AM
I inject myself with gorilla DNA preworkout. It gives me gorilla like strength with a 12-14 hour half life.
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- 02-21-2013, 09:59 AM
02-21-2013, 10:04 AM
it does not. Unless there is new technology i am not yet aware of. U sure ur not thinking of gh or something like that?
02-21-2013, 10:17 AM
I mean DNA replicates whatever is in its transcript but honestly I don't know. I thought it sounded a little funky to me and I feel like if they were able to do something like this everyone and their mother would be talking about it. Maybe she meant GH not DNA. Is GH testable?
02-21-2013, 10:18 AM
02-21-2013, 10:22 AM
She just ended class by talking about it briefly so there wasn't much of an elaboration other than her story of an Olympic sprinter did this to get bigger quads but the muscle mass and strength was so much it broke his leg
02-21-2013, 10:33 AM
There are currently injectable nucleotide drugs on the market, but none that I know are PEDs. They're anti-cancer small molecules for the most part.
Think your teacher is referring to genetic therapy of some sort, but as far as I'm aware, that is neither available nor able to do what she claims currently. I know there have been experimental procedures conducted on dogs and a few preliminary trials in isolated individuals in europe, but nothing like this...
02-21-2013, 10:38 AM
Got ya. Well dang that would be sweet if they do figure something like that out. We could all look like Arnold with no side effects!
02-21-2013, 11:07 AM
02-21-2013, 01:13 PM
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02-21-2013, 04:52 PM
Sounds like gene therapy the broscience version.
There are methods of using dna manipulation to increase muscle mass in a way that make steroids look like tic tacs.
Same thing can be said about bull whipits
Or Belgian blue cows
02-21-2013, 08:48 PM
I wonder how much test is flowing through those animals though Like that bull must bust an 8 gallon load
02-21-2013, 09:16 PM
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02-21-2013, 09:59 PM
Re: DNA injections?
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02-21-2013, 10:05 PM
If we could change our DNA by injecting other DNA that would completely change things in the medical field.
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02-21-2013, 10:10 PM
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02-22-2013, 08:09 AM
Hey gerbil where did you find all that info? I wouldn't mind reading more on it. Maybe even use it for an essay topic in class
02-22-2013, 10:30 AM
Those animals, however, were not originally constructed using viral infection, but through other means like micro-injection, targetted recombination or natural mutation.
02-22-2013, 11:07 AM
02-22-2013, 01:22 PM
What if you could inject something that would increase the number of ribosomes and mRNA in the cell body, since they create protein more of those = more protein synthesis= more muscle, I hope that thats what test dose
02-22-2013, 02:13 PM
In any case, there are a few things that increase mitochondrial density, which results in increased ribosomal cell content. While still putative, this may actually be very beneficial, but more for energy expenditure and endurance/performance than hypertrophy from what I've read.
02-22-2013, 10:16 PM
I haven't looked at the topic of gene therapy in a while, but last I heard, they are able to shut off the specific gene that controls myostatin production, but were unable to turn it back on.
after rats, primates are the next stop, not sure if it's made it this far yet or not though. been a few years, so maybe?
02-22-2013, 10:26 PM
The mighty mice are from the University of Pennsylvania by H. Lee Sweeney, chairman of the department of physiology, and Elisabeth Barton a professor.They are given gene therapy before birth or at 4 weeks old to produce increased levels of IGF-1. The research was done to reduce falls in the elderly and treat Muscular Dystrophy.
The Nationwide Children’s Hospital, Columbus, Ohio got a grant in 2010 for “Follistatin Gene Therapy to Improve Quadriceps Muscle Strength” in volunteers with Becker muscular dystrophy and sporadic inclusion body myositis. There is more on follistatin gene therapy at endduchenne.org. Since then i've read so much broscience bull**** on follistatin. Just injecting follistatin peptide is completely different then injecting a modified virus carrying the follistatin gene right? or am i wrong.
02-24-2013, 03:51 AM
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